NSDAP not NAZI

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Scott
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Re: NSDAP not NAZI

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I rarely use the word Nïgger in polite company. Usually I say Blacks or simply Negro. In German, they say Neger for Negro but now more commonly Schwarze (Blacks).

Nobody says that Negroes are literally black instead of brown. I personally don't like the term "African-American," and even less so, "Afro-American," and rarely use those forms. If I am trying to be cheeky, I might say "Gabon."

I capitalize Black and White if I am talking about races rather than perceived skin color or absolute colors.

Anyway, nobody is saying that NSDAP does not mean the "National Socialist German Workers Party," but I explained the orgin of the colloquial word "Nazi" for the National in National Socialist.

Goebbels also sometimes said "Sozi" for Socialist, but that never really caught on.

The important thing for Hitler was to differentiate the national-socialism of the NSDAP as a Right-wing ideology with the inherent inter-nationalism of Marxist socialism and Jewish "cosmopolitanism."

That is why one says National Socialism or NS, or else the term that the German Minister of Propaganda, Dr. Paul Joseph Goebbels preferred, i.e., "Nazi."

I already gave the citations for the Goebbels diaries, which you can find in a large academic or public library, or procure from a smaller library via Inter-library Loan.

The popular historian and prolific WWII writer, David Irving has also seen the versions of the Goebbels diaries in the Russian archives that were photographed on glass microfiche for preservation by the good doctor himself, and were subsequently captured by the Soviets at the end of the war.

:-)
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Re: NSDAP not NAZI

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MonkyGamesNSDAP wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 1:30 am
Scott wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 1:13 am Easy there, Comrade.

As I said, the word is colloquial, not formal.
colloquial
characteristic of or appropriate to ordinary or familiar conversation rather than formal speech or writing; informal.
However, official German documents from the period do use a lot of similar abbreviation conventions like the word GeStaPo for Secret State Police or KriPo for Kriminalpolizei.

The fact that the ....

:lol:
I am saying I don't believe your sources. It was well known that NAZI means idiot/country bumpin/nigger. This is why you don't find it any official documentation.

You won't be fooling me, and perhaps it is you that are the jew.

Why doesn't the Jewish Winners of WW2 use the official Acrynom NSDAP? Because it was the Jewish instigators of the war that assigned NAZI to the NSDAP as a slur.
I'm not aware the term having any other meaning in German, albeit it's possible that it was used different in some slangs.... It sounds a bit like the counterpart of SOZI for the SPD / Social Democrats.... Well. the word got indeed a meaning in Hebrew/Aramaic akin to 'prince' / leader / REGENT (there spelled Nazir)... It's used in the prophesies pointing to Christ. And then there is the term Nazarene as well... That Jews would use that as a code word wouldn't be a surprise. Since WW2 they stopped using Christian or Goy as a slur, although they occasionally still do, simply because they now needed the support of traditionally Christian countries for 'Israel'... So Nazi was a convenient substitute and suitable as a term to sow discord among 'Edom', which is their code word for the Occident or Christianity.
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The colloquial term Nazi was not necessarily used to "sow discord," although modern Germans might have a problem with it because Nazism, or National Socialism if you prefer, is illegal there ─ and they might therefore have real concerns with what George Orwell called the Thought Police ─ so they will get extra formal about it and maybe stick to something like "NSDAP" or say "National Socialist" (with a faint shudder).

This might be a good modern example of "Orwellian programming" (not that Americans do not have similar hang-ups of their own with other issues). If we talk about "gun violence," for example, or any other kind of violent crime in the USA, we can't actually mention the Race of the perpetrators. (This is only done with the tardy publication of accompanying news photographs, but only if the perpetrators are not also juveniles.)

As I already said, and showed, the Propaganda Minister himself used the term "Nazi" with great affection.

The only grammatical problem with "Nazi" that I can see is when modern English speakers will say something like "Nazi submarines," or whatever ─ as if German submarines or U-boats belonging to the Third Reich were Party members, LOL.

As explaned, the German word "Nazi" is derived from the word "National" in NSDAP, and in German sounds like "Naht-zee-on-all" (in English phonetic pronunciation).

The term "Commie" in English, short for Communist, might indeed have pejorative connotations because it was never used that way (as far as I know) by its own adherents ─ unlike with the real Nazis, namely the Nazi Propaganda Minister himself, Dr. Goebbels.

Dr. Goebbels was venting in his personal diary in February of 1941 about the ideological dedication of the German Foreign Minister, Joachim von Ribbentrop, and then a few days later, about the Nazi wartime Reichskommissar of the Netherlands, Dr. Arthur Seyss-Inquart ─ both of whom were put on trial by the Victors at Nuremberg and hanged on October 16, 1946 with all the others ─ who was also "no real Nazi."

Of course, Dr. Goebbels was here spouting off privately, and probably didn't mean it literally that Ribbentrop and Seyss-Inquart were not really Nazis, but it shows that he regarded the term "Nazi" with great pride.

:-)
A young General Napoleon Bonaparte gives the mob a "Whiff of Grapeshot" on the streets of Paris, and that "thing we specifically call French Revolution is blown into space by it."
~ Thomas Carlyle
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