Germar Rudolf red ice podcast

[HansHill]

Mr Rudolf has recently appeared on the Red Ice podcast. They cover alot of ground, and he comes across as authoritative and very well all things considered, however he makes one claim I'm having trouble substantiating.

I dont have the timestamp to hand (it was around the 1 hour mark), and so to paraphrase: Mr Rudolf appears to be implying he himself would have been imprisoned in a concentration camp under the Third Reich, presumably for his continued and unrelenting scientific works which undermine powerful establishments.

Do we have any documented instances of the Third Reich imprisoning productive German scientists, or is this sadly a case of Mr Rudolf attempting to distance himself from the optics of pro-National Socialism?

[Stubble]

Germar stayed with the hosts of red ice for a couple of days and built a long lasting relationship with their humble cat in the process.

What Germar said about the likelihood of him being put into a concentration camp was not about his work in chemistry but his commitment to the preservation of knowledge and the keeping of books, all books, from destruction.

It was also about his honesty liberal ideology. Germar is a Liberal Democrat in the strictest sense, and for this, he most likely would have been interred in a camp for political reasons. There is no secret that Liberal Democracy was seen as 1 step away from judeo bolshevik tyranny and as an enemy of the German Nation under the National Socialist model.

I agree with Germar, he would have been arrested and incarcerated in National Socialist Germany and deprived of his civil liberties as an enemy of the state.

I am unsure what disposition he would have experienced in a post was National Socialist Germany however.

Basically, his assessment is correct. He would have been held as a political prisoner for his idealism and his liberal and democratic views.

https://odysee.com/@redicetv:1/the-holo ... r-rudolf:9

https://odysee.com/@redicetv:1/america- ... ff-ep292:9

Both interviews, in downloadable format

Timestamp @~1:23:00

[HansHill]

https://odysee.com/@redicetv:1/the-holo ... r-rudolf:9

https://odysee.com/@redicetv:1/america- ... ff-ep292:9

Both interviews, in downloadable format

Timestamp @~1:23:00

I wasn't aware of the second interview, thanks for the share!

I disagree with your assessment here re Germar's chances in the 3R, however we are probably answering two different questions. I'm asking, would Germar's existing body of work (both scientific and publishing) have got him encamped in the 3R, which is why I've asked for any parallel examples of the 3R imprisoning or encamping German scientists for their works. I'm unaware of any, but the good people here at Codoh might be more knowledgeable.

You perhaps are answering a different question; If you're suggesting had GR been alive during the 3R he would have become a political dissident and an activist, and taken meaningful steps to becoming an enemy of the state through political agitation, then yeah maybe - however that's not really what I'm asking because it's too speculative. For example, everyone knows the NSDAP cracked down on political rivals, you might point to the Night of the Long Knives where AH violently suppressed the Rohm putsch. You might say "Germar would have been one of those assassinated". And fair enough, but that's not really what I'm asking, and is too speculative, because the Germar Rudolf we do know in the modern day isn't a violent insurrectionist or agitator.

He publishes science & history books, and to my knowledge, the NSDAP didn't assassinate or imprison German scientists.

[Stubble]

Oh, na, I was addressing the content of the interview, rough time stamp provided, and outlining why he thought he would have been rounded up.

I agree with him. He would have.

He didn't say it would have been because of his work, he said it would have been for thought crime.

[HansHill]

That is another hard disagree from me then, I'm afraid!

If what we're saying is - he would be encamped for, not his scientific work, not his historical publishing, and not becoming a political agitator, but rather simply for personally held opinions about liberal democracy... Then i'm going to need to be shown something a bit more substantial to be swayed.

Kindly reminder that according to a Nuremberg prosecution document, Document R-129 (III 506 [565-566])) there were 21,400 concentration camp inmates across the entire network of camps prior to outbreak of the war in 1939 - which is less than half of present day Germany's regular prison population of 57,000 as at 31 Dec 2023.

That's a very low number for all everyday German "thought criminals" to have been swept up?

[Stubble]

That is another hard disagree from me then, I'm afraid!

If what we're saying is - he would be encamped for, not his scientific work, not his historical publishing, and not becoming a political agitator, but rather simply for personally held opinions about liberal democracy... Then i'm going to need to be shown something a bit more substantial to be swayed.

Kindly reminder that according to a Nuremberg prosecution document, Document R-129 (III 506 [565-566])) there were 21,400 concentration camp inmates across the entire network of camps prior to outbreak of the war in 1939 - which is less than half of present day Germany's regular prison population of 57,000 as at 31 Dec 2023.

That's a very low number for all everyday German "thought criminals" to have been swept up?

Listen to the time stamp, it is at about 1 hour and 23 minutes in the first interview. He makes a pretty strong case.

Also, his publishing work is tangentially related.

I've got to agree with you that the initial internment rate of dissidents was incredibly low.