HD seemingly allowed on X/Twitter

[Archie]

I was under the impression that "Holocaust denial" had been banned on Twitter some time ago. Pretty sure it was. But it seems at some point after Elon Musk took ownership they started allowing it. Not sure to what extent. That's rather surprising as this is the only example I can think of where a tech giant has reverted back toward free speech. With all the others, the pattern was that they all started out pretty strong on free speech when they were building up their monopolies but they pulled the rug out during Trump's first term, with the ADL providing much of the "guidance" for what should be permitted.

This is all news to me. Whatever is going on, it seems that "X" under Elon is indeed a lot more open. Revisionists should take advantage of this. I doubt it will last for ever, but we should use it while we can.

I just made an X account for the forum. Give it a follow if you are on there. There was a Twitter account for the old forum (not sure how much it was used), but it got suspended years ago.
https://x.com/CODOHforum76

My theory about what's going on: Elon is campaigning really hard for Trump right now, so my guess is that's why they have loosened the corset. After the election I would not be surprised if they start to lock it back down. Remember that a lot of the right wing Likud type Jews prefer Trump because they know he will let them go full bore with their genocide. Those type of Jews are willing to let a degree of right wing populism flourish as a tradeoff if they think they can get something out of it.

[Archie]

I just noticed there was no way to embed videos or tweets on the forum. Turns out that isn't included in stock phpBB. It's an extension. Just added it. So if you want to embed stuff from YouTube, etc, use the media embed tag. See examples below.

I got a kick out of these X posts from MMA fighter Jake Shields. Sounds like he's our guy.



Full text:

Ive been trying to put together a debate on the holocaust and have had 3 people pull out after they agreed

Every time I give them the name of who they will be debating and they pull out within 24 hours

If anyone with good credentials is willing to debate Germar Rudolf let me know

I haven't watched any video of him but I'm begging to suspect he must have his stuff down
@GermarRudolf

My latest post

[curioussoul]

I'm quite surprised. One of the absurd rules that Musk enacted was the "genocide denial rule", meant to quash Holocaust revisionism on X. While I'm obviously disappointed in the existence of this rule, clearly their enforcement of it is pretty lax. But it is worrying that they can, at any time, ban someone for having violated it.

[Archie]

I'm quite surprised. One of the absurd rules that Musk enacted was the "genocide denial rule", meant to quash Holocaust revisionism on X. While I'm obviously disappointed in the existence of this rule, clearly their enforcement of it is pretty lax. But it is worrying that they can, at any time, ban someone for having violated it.

From what I have seen in the week I've been on there, it's more than "lax." They are just straight up allowing it. And not just Holocaust denial. There's openly pro-Hitler stuff. There's tons of anti-Semitic stuff (happy merchant memes and stuff like that), TONS of anti-Israel posts (left and right). Germar's on there. ARMREG's on there. Clemens & Blair is on there.

I'm sure there will be a big purge at some point (maybe very soon if they are doing this to help Trump get elected), but in the meantime it's a good way to get some eyeballs on our stuff. I'm going to keep using it as long as it's viable and I would encourage anybody who's thinking about it to jump on there.

Since the account I'm using has the CODOH name, I'm going to keep it fairly buttoned down. Mostly straight factual material and free speech type stuff. Some Israel criticism. But nothing over-the-top. My stuff is mild compared some of the other accounts.

[Callafangers]

This one sort of blew my mind. This is actually Hitler's voice, in English (with a British accent), AI-generated. The transcript is from Dalton's translation of Mein Kampf.

[curioussoul]

This one sort of blew my mind. This is actually Hitler's voice, in English (with a British accent), AI-generated. The transcript is from Dalton's translation of Mein Kampf.

Some of this new AI technology is pretty mindblowing. These Hitler translations into English, in particular, I think have the potential to give an entirely new perspective to young non-German speaking people not familiar with what Hitler and National Socialists actually said and believed, and who probably grew up being told he was a raving lunatic. I've heard some of these AI translations have gone viral on TikTok as well, which is encouraging. Ironically, some of what Hitler said probably resonates a lot with left-leaning young people.

[fireofice]

My theory about what's going on: Elon is campaigning really hard for Trump right now, so my guess is that's why they have loosened the corset. After the election I would not be surprised if they start to lock it back down. Remember that a lot of the right wing Likud type Jews prefer Trump because they know he will let them go full bore with their genocide. Those type of Jews are willing to let a degree of right wing populism flourish as a tradeoff if they think they can get something out of it.

Well Trump won. Lets see if you were right.

[Archie]

My theory about what's going on: Elon is campaigning really hard for Trump right now, so my guess is that's why they have loosened the corset. After the election I would not be surprised if they start to lock it back down. Remember that a lot of the right wing Likud type Jews prefer Trump because they know he will let them go full bore with their genocide. Those type of Jews are willing to let a degree of right wing populism flourish as a tradeoff if they think they can get something out of it.

Well Trump won. Lets see if you were right.

I hope Elon proves me wrong. He says he supports free speech. We'll see how serious he is about that.

I think the censorship of big tech a few years ago set us back many years. The sad reality is that censorship often works pretty damn well. Can you imagine if we had Google, Amazon, YouTube, and Twitter all this time? If X remains as open as it is right now, that is a huge opportunity for us. X is an especially good platfom imo for reaching new people.

If Elon does stick to his guns, it will be interesting to see what sort of retaliation that triggers against him.

[joshk246]

I hope Elon proves me wrong. He says he supports free speech. We'll see how serious he is about that.

Remember when Elon said this though... I think he's smarter than we think (hopefully).

[Archie]

Here are few tips I've learned for making video clips. X limits videos to 2 minutes and 20 seconds (unless you have premium), so it's often necessary to snip things down.

For a really simple clips, most Windows computers will come with Clipchamp. And for Mac you should able to use iMovie. These are pretty easy to use. These can also do some basic video editing, like mixing different clips together, adding stills, adding transitions, adding text, etc.

Another very useful piece of free software is OBS Studio. This can be used for screen recording. If you want to clip something from Netflix or a streaming app or anything else you can use this to essentially download it. Record a bit extra and then fine tune with the clipping software.

If you have a clip that needs subtitles, I've noticed sometimes these don't show up in the clipping software. There's a free program called Handbrake that converts file formats and it has an option to hardcode subtitles.

[Fred Ziffel]

Yours truely was suspended a few weeks ago for talking about Crem 1 construction history. I was very civil but now gone

[Fred Ziffel]

I found this but it is as of April 2023

[Callafangers]

Yours truely was suspended a few weeks ago for talking about Crem 1 construction history. I was very civil but now gone

I am convinced the right-shift of X/Twitter (and now Meta/Facebook) is an effort to bring 'problematic thinkers' back under the data-mining and control of establishment hacks like Elon, Zuckerberg, etc. They cannot control thought movements they do not have detailed data insights about. Newcomers like Gab (run by Andrew Torba, a Christian nationalist who is very aware of and vocal about Jewish problems in history) were gaining many new members which, of course, the ADL/etc has had zero success in controlling. The ADL loves Elon (and of course Zuckerberg), though, and their "freedom of speech, not freedom of reach" mantra has caught on, entailing that they simply shut down the visibility of any problematic ideas (or, in some select cases, still do suspensions/bans). Overall, everyone should get on Gab (if anything) as X/Twitter (and certainly Facebook, etc) are not reliable for purposes of revisionism, and could actually be dangerous in the long-run (depending on how our data is used, or whom it is sold or given to).

[Archie]

Yours truely was suspended a few weeks ago for talking about Crem 1 construction history. I was very civil but now gone

Too bad. That surprises me. From what I can tell the bannings are very inconsistent. It seems they allow a lot of overtly racist posting. But then some well-behaved accounts will get banned. As I recall, your posts were technical/factual in nature and not inflammatory at all.

Overall, the enforcement against HD still seems lax/inconsistent.

[Archie]

Yours truely was suspended a few weeks ago for talking about Crem 1 construction history. I was very civil but now gone

I am convinced the right-shift of X/Twitter (and now Meta/Facebook) is an effort to bring 'problematic thinkers' back under the data-mining and control of establishment hacks like Elon, Zuckerberg, etc. They cannot control thought movements they do not have detailed data insights about. Newcomers like Gab (run by Andrew Torba, a Christian nationalist who is very aware of and vocal about Jewish problems in history) were gaining many new members which, of course, the ADL/etc has had zero success in controlling. The ADL loves Elon (and of course Zuckerberg), though, and their "freedom of speech, not freedom of reach" mantra has caught on, entailing that they simply shut down the visibility of any problematic ideas (or, in some select cases, still do suspensions/bans). Overall, everyone should get on Gab (if anything) as X/Twitter (and certainly Facebook, etc) are not reliable for purposes of revisionism, and could actually be dangerous in the long-run (depending on how our data is used, or whom it is sold or given to).

I definitely don't think it's "reliable." And I do think it's in part an attempt to manage/corral the right. Nonetheless if the enforcement is relaxed (whatever the motivation), that's a big opportunity to reach more people. Torba is actually pretty active on X, probably because he knows how useful it is for promotional purposes. The forum X account is not large by any means, but it still generates a fair number of referrals (according to the site statistics).

They could be trying to collect emails and IPs but frankly for mass users I think it's more about having them on a known platform where there can be some narrative control.