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Mr. Rudolf posted on X today.

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Germar talking to Ryan Dawson about his time on the inside.

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This is great news, thanks for sharing.

The stories from Mr Rudolf's time inside are very scary, delighted that he seems safe and in good spirits. I'm very impressed by Dawson for platforming Rudolf, despite Dawson not fully aligning with Revisionism.

Mr Rudolf is only just out of prison, and is surely reeling from these traumatic events, so now is not the time to reflect on these points (maybe in the future) but I found it very interesting that Mr Rudolf can simultaneously acknowledge, predict and account for racial behaviors in certain fellow inmates but seems reluctant to apply a racial aspect to anti-semitism (likewise for Dawson, but he has always held view like this).

Like I said, now is not the time, and Mr Rudolf is far too smart to say anything silly on the public record (except the N word multiple times :lol: ) so perhaps this topic can be discussed at another time, how Revisionism intersects with racial and political anti-semitism.
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HansHill wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2025 12:22 pm Like I said, now is not the time, and Mr Rudolf is far too smart to say anything silly on the public record (except the N word multiple times :lol: ) so perhaps this topic can be discussed at another time, how Revisionism intersects with racial and political anti-semitism.
Has he said the 'forbidden word'? I must have missed that.

As for racial topics, etc., I can appreciate that Germar has not focused on this too much. It's a complex area with lots of context that I doubt most Holocaust revisionists have specialized in. And I know there is disagreement and disparities in understanding on some of these topics between revisionists, generally, which is probably a good thing (highlights the fact that 'racism' is not an area that binds those interested in the truth of the 'Holocaust').
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HansHill wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2025 12:22 pm This is great news, thanks for sharing.

The stories from Mr Rudolf's time inside are very scary, delighted that he seems safe and in good spirits. I'm very impressed by Dawson for platforming Rudolf, despite Dawson not fully aligning with Revisionism.

Mr Rudolf is only just out of prison, and is surely reeling from these traumatic events, so now is not the time to reflect on these points (maybe in the future) but I found it very interesting that Mr Rudolf can simultaneously acknowledge, predict and account for racial behaviors in certain fellow inmates but seems reluctant to apply a racial aspect to anti-semitism (likewise for Dawson, but he has always held view like this).

Like I said, now is not the time, and Mr Rudolf is far too smart to say anything silly on the public record (except the N word multiple times :lol: ) so perhaps this topic can be discussed at another time, how Revisionism intersects with racial and political anti-semitism.
The way he described some of that was unintentionally hilarious. This eccentric German scientist in jail with these “gangstas.” That has the makings of a good fish out of water comedy script. I would catch myself laughing at a few parts and have to remind myself that this poor guy spent a month (including Christmas) in jail for no good reason.

One good point he made is that it is NOT normal for them to pursue you across state lines for such a trivial charge. That’s such a ridiculous waste of time and money. Some scumbag went out of their way to make that happen. And it seems somebody also tipped off others in the jail that he was a “Nazi.” Germar’s awfully moderate for a Nazi, I have to say.
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Callafangers wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2025 6:53 pm
HansHill wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2025 12:22 pm Like I said, now is not the time, and Mr Rudolf is far too smart to say anything silly on the public record (except the N word multiple times :lol: ) so perhaps this topic can be discussed at another time, how Revisionism intersects with racial and political anti-semitism.
Has he said the 'forbidden word'? I must have missed that.

As for racial topics, etc., I can appreciate that Germar has not focused on this too much. It's a complex area with lots of context that I doubt most Holocaust revisionists have specialized in. And I know there is disagreement and disparities in understanding on some of these topics between revisionists, generally, which is probably a good thing (highlights the fact that 'racism' is not an area that binds those interested in the truth of the 'Holocaust').
He mentioned that he was called a nigger in detention. It was to provoke a fight apparently. And to organize an incident. Obviously there was a campaign against Germar already in place there. So the arrest for sure is no 'coincidence'...
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Callafangers wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2025 6:53 pm
HansHill wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2025 12:22 pm Like I said, now is not the time, and Mr Rudolf is far too smart to say anything silly on the public record (except the N word multiple times :lol: ) so perhaps this topic can be discussed at another time, how Revisionism intersects with racial and political anti-semitism.
Has he said the 'forbidden word'? I must have missed that.

As for racial topics, etc., I can appreciate that Germar has not focused on this too much. It's a complex area with lots of context that I doubt most Holocaust revisionists have specialized in. And I know there is disagreement and disparities in understanding on some of these topics between revisionists, generally, which is probably a good thing (highlights the fact that 'racism' is not an area that binds those interested in the truth of the 'Holocaust').
Agreed. Rudolf not being a raving lunatic about looming race wars is a net positive for Revisionism, absolutely.

I guess my point is this (and yes i know i said now is not the time but anyway): Given his prison experiences, one could easily imagine a scenario where he was not only identified by the black gangs, but by the white gangs too. Maybe an actual neo nazi gang, "hey thats Germar Rudolf, that guy's a legend!" In a situation like that you would hope that even the staunchest raceblind centrist would recognise the importance of group dynamics and ingroup preference.
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Absolute warrior. This man does not give up. God bless him.
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Links to three recent interviews here (Hugo, Dawson, O'Doherty)

https://germarrudolf.com/2025/01/a-seri ... nterviews/

And here's another with Kevin Barrett.

https://www.unz.com/kbarrett/germar-rud ... -research/

I think getting out there is right move. The more he's out there the harder I think it will be for them to do anything to him without it looking bad.
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I don't understand the idea of some sinister focus on Rudolf at this late date and time. The timeline of events seems pretty clear. He was convicted of indecent exposure. He appealed the sentence of probation, which it was his right to do. The appeal was denied (most are). He failed to appear in court for final sentencing. A bench warrant was issued for him, and when he was located, he was arrested and returned to Pennsylvania to complete the process. Because of his disregard for the legal process, he might now face jail time or worse. But it seems to me that it's his mistake and not a conspiracy.

Zündel made the same sort of mistakes. He left Canada and married Ingrid Rimland, moving to the US. In doing so, he abandoned his "landed immigrant" status in Canada, which he'd had since young adulthood and amounts to a green carded alien in the US. Most importantly, he missed an immigration hearing in the US, after which point he was arrested and deported back to Canada. Because he had abandoned his landed immigrant status there, he was deported to his place of birth. Again, it was his mistake.

Zündel was much better known in Canada than Rudolf is here in the US. Even among people like me who know who he is and keep tabs on him, his star faded two decades ago. He'd been living in the same state as me for years before I learned that he was. If he'd just followed the rules, he'd be fine right now.

What's truly rich is that, if Rudolf's last name was "Rodolfo," his nation of origin was Mexico, his skin was darker, and his politics were left wing, you'd all be yelling for his ouster the second he stepped out of line.
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Numar Patru wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:15 pm I don't understand the idea of some sinister focus on Rudolf at this late date and time. [...]

The whole thing smacks of a setup.

They obviously knew of Mr. Rudolf's pre-dawn exercise routine and personal habits ─ and a cop happened to be there just as he was changing his exercise clothes in the dark after a bicycle ride and a swim in the river.

The media reported (ever so helpfully) that a Holocaust Denier(tm) was caught prancing about at a "children's playground, nude from the waste down."

Secondly, it is easy to miss a court date as they are not obligated to inform you of anything. They will change the date of these things arbitrarily all the time depending on what the judge has going on. They expect you to have a high-priced attorney watching the court calendar like a hawk.

I know from experience after my accident (I was the victim) that quite often when you show up for a hearing date that you have maybe taken time off work for, only to be informed by the clerk on that morning, that the date has just been moved for some silly reason.

Btw, this is how Randy Weaver was setup ─ the Feds claimed that he missed a court date.

When the Feds stormed his cabin, they shot and killed his son, his son's dog, and then killed his wife who was standing at the cabin doorway holding her assault infant (the baby fortunately not being harmed). Weaver was shot but not killed, and he basically won his case on grounds of entrapment and Federal overreach. Weaver took partial blame for missing the court date.

There is a pretty good 1996 CBS TV miniseries with Randy Quaid and Laura Dern about this (LINK).

In any case, as with Ernst Zündel, the process is part of the System punishment.

Germar Rudolf is not a raving lunatic nor a Hollywood caricature. That makes him a prime target for harassment and abuse from the (((usual suspects))). This kind of harassment is particularly bad in countries like Canada without First Amendment protections.

Rudolf is a credible scientific expert, a competent and indefatigable Revisionist publisher, and one who has yet to be silenced despite years of vicious harassment and Thoughtcrime imprisonment.

Rudolf remains today the go-to source for anyone who wants to investigate Revisionism and the merit of its arguments.

If Mr. Rudolf is such an irrelevant cypher, how is it that the jail and the swarthy jailhouse gangs and even the obscurantist guards knew who he was and his "reputation" as a "Nazi" ?

Obviously the ADL or fellow travellers put the bug into their ears. They are not the brightest and are easily played.

So, nice try, comrade ─ but it seems pretty obvious what is going on here.

As Orwell memorably said, “Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows."

The "traditional enemies of free-speech," as David Irving once called them, can't debate Mr. Rudolf on the facts, and they have not been able to easily silence him.

It is likely no coincidence that Rudolf was arrested on something trivial if not bogus not long after a rare debate with an academic historian.

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Scott wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:11 am If Mr. Rudolf is such an irrelevant cypher, how is it that the jail and the swarthy jailhouse gangs and even the obscurantist guards knew who he was and his "reputation" as a "Nazi" ?
Says him. I don’t buy it. He lies like a rug.
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Numar Patru wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:16 am
Scott wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:11 am If Mr. Rudolf is such an irrelevant cypher, how is it that the jail and the swarthy jailhouse gangs and even the obscurantist guards knew who he was and his "reputation" as a "Nazi" ?

Says him. I don’t buy it. He lies like a rug.

Well, unlike political prisoner Derek Chauvin, Germar Rudolf never got shivved in jail, and he did return home after several weeks, so the affair is almost a moot point now unless Germar is dealt more legal harassment.

But what do you think of Mr. Rudolf's Scientific or Revisionist work? That is the important part.

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Scott wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 7:51 pm
But what do you think of Mr. Rudolf's Scientific or Revisionist work? That is the important part.
That’s not important. What’s important is whether his work has had enough impact to warrant outsized attention from law enforcement or government agencies.
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Numar Patru wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:19 pm
Scott wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 7:51 pm
But what do you think of Mr. Rudolf's Scientific or Revisionist work? That is the important part.
That’s not important. What’s important is whether his work has had enough impact to warrant outsized attention from law enforcement or government agencies.
I would say so, since Nazi Gassings Never Happened. Nobody Was Gassed!

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