Kula Columns

[HansHill]

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[borjastick]

Why do people here engage with and reply to Nessie Bum Bum. He's pulling your chains and has no intention of being truthful or honourable. In fact I think he should be ignored like the very naughty boy that he is.

He's not the Messiah he's just a very naughty boy.

Endless waffle and distraction practices being employed by people who know the truth but do everything possible to avoid it. If the holocaust had happened as claimed the proof would be everywhere and web sites like this one would be redundant. That they are here says everything you need to know.

Don't give Nessie Bum Bum the oxygen he craves. Ignore the boy and let's see if the turd can be flushed because it sure can't be polished...

[HansHill]

Don't give Nessie Bum Bum the oxygen he craves. Ignore the boy and let's see if the turd can be flushed because it sure can't be polished...

Yes, it feels like Holocaust Wack-A-Mole!

[Nessie]

In isolation, a room fitted with "4 wire mesh introduction devices" is evidence that the room has 4 metal apparatuses, used to insert something into the room. The "4 wooden covers" suggest something to cover over the hole used to introduce whatever is being inserted into the room.

Perfectly incorrect, and that is not what this document shows.

1) Pressac mistranslated the word. “Drahtnetzeinschiebevorrichtung” = “wire net sliding device”

2) Pressac himself seemingly didn’t consider it “evidence” because of his famous retreat to “criminal traces”, meaning this isn't anything "in isolation" as you put it, according even to Pressac.

3) Nor did Van Pelt, who didn’t bother use this document in the Irving trial, because Van Pelt is smart.

4) Literature of this time contains multiple references to “wire” “mesh” “screen” “sliding” “devices” for exmaple, to act as a mesh to slide behind (or infront of) a screen or opening - these wire devices are in keeping with the literature at the time.

5) These can be understood as being safety features for the operation of the morgues, for example a mesh sliding grill to be slid over the intake or outlets in the ventilation system.

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Now show me evidence of another crematorium with a wire mesh sliding grill for its ventilation system, since it is unlikely the Kremas were a unique design that needed its ventilation system protected with a grill.

Then show me evidence, from witnesses, documents, or other source, that corroborates the "wire net sliding device" was a grill for the ventilation system.

I am not interested in your opinion as to what you think it was, I want evidence.

[Nessie]

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What is the source and location of those devices?

Where is your corroborating evidence that those devices were fitted to the inside of the Kremas?

[Nessie]

Don't give Nessie Bum Bum the oxygen he craves. Ignore the boy and let's see if the turd can be flushed because it sure can't be polished...

Yes, it feels like Holocaust Wack-A-Mole!

It is like wack-a-mole, in that revisionists present all sorts of different, contradictory opinions on what the Kremas were being used for 1943-4 and when I ask for evidence to prove the usage, they dodge and duck and re-present their opinion again.

[HansHill]

Now show me evidence of another crematorium with a wire mesh sliding grill for its ventilation system, since it is unlikely the Kremas were a unique design that needed its ventilation system protected with a grill.

Then show me evidence, from witnesses, documents, or other source, that corroborates the "wire net sliding device" was a grill for the ventilation system.

I am not interested in your opinion as to what you think it was, I want evidence.

Cope!!



And here's one specifically use for morgues:

https://www.ysenmed-morgue.com/show-203.html

[borjastick]

Don't give Nessie Bum Bum the oxygen he craves. Ignore the boy and let's see if the turd can be flushed because it sure can't be polished...

Yes, it feels like Holocaust Wack-A-Mole!

It is like wack-a-mole, in that revisionists present all sorts of different, contradictory opinions on what the Kremas were being used for 1943-4 and when I ask for evidence to prove the usage, they dodge and duck and re-present their opinion again.

Ladies and gentlemen talking of dodging and ducking I give you, and you can keep him, Nessie Bum Bum.

[Nessie]

Now show me evidence of another crematorium with a wire mesh sliding grill for its ventilation system, since it is unlikely the Kremas were a unique design that needed its ventilation system protected with a grill.

Then show me evidence, from witnesses, documents, or other source, that corroborates the "wire net sliding device" was a grill for the ventilation system.

I am not interested in your opinion as to what you think it was, I want evidence.

Cope!!



And here's one specifically use for morgues:

https://www.ysenmed-morgue.com/show-203.html

They are modern and do not look like sliding mesh covers for vents. It should have been obvious, but maybe not, that I am asking about German crematoriums back in the 1930s/40s.

I note you have failed to provide any corroborative evidence that the device was purely a sliding cover for vents.

[Stubble]

Those high efficiency electrostatic filters (effective with particle filtration down to half a micron) are most definitely an evolution of the type described for gas shelter ventilation in the previous posts.

Although, yes, they are not exactly the same.

Good lord Nessie.

Also, Mr Hill, wow, thank you for these posts. I'm going to delve further into this. It may merit a new thread, perhaps you could start one.

[Nessie]

Those high efficiency electrostatic filters (effective with particle filtration down to half a micron) are most definitely an evolution of the type described for gas shelter ventilation in the previous posts.

Although, yes, they are not exactly the same.

Good lord Nessie.

Also, Mr Hill, wow, thank you for these posts. I'm going to delve further into this. It may merit a new thread, perhaps you could start one.

The "4 wire mesh slide in devices" have now become proto-filters! Is there going to be any contemporaneous to the Krema operations in 1943-4 evidence to back up this latest theory?

[blake121666]

I've been looking over the Holocaust-History.org stuff the past week or so and should probably link to their takes on the Kula columns:

Zyklon Introduction Columns

Four wire-mesh introduction devices,
four wooden covers

[Stubble]

Ok.

I've been digging too.

I found this;

https://ia601401.us.archive.org/32/item ... humans.mp4

Apparently, hydrogen cyanide, in its liquid state, takes time to offgas below 80°f.

/shrug

[HansHill]

I've been looking over the Holocaust-History.org stuff the past week or so and should probably link to their takes on the Kula columns:

Zyklon Introduction Columns

Four wire-mesh introduction devices,
four wooden covers

Thank you for this, I've identified some problems here.

Your first link

These columns are listed in the inventory of crematorium II, March 31, 1943, as "wire-mesh insertion devices" (Drahtnetzeinschiebvorrichtung) with "wooden covers" (Holzblenden).

There are no columns listed here. Wire Mesh Insertion Devices are listed, not columns.

Your second link

As Pressac points out (pp. 429-30), it is Leichenkeller 1 which contains the wire-mesh introduction devices and the wooden covers, though the numerals "4" for these items are entered on the second line.We know the numbers are switched because all the other evidence converges on Leichenkeller 1 as the gas chamber, and not Leichenkeller 2 (which was the room where the victims undressed).

This is problematic and dangerous for obvious reasons, but I'll explain anyway. Inferring the document is incorrect to fit a genocidal narrative is a Deus Ex Machina solution to a problem. That problem being "how to get the pellets safely into and back out of the room again". The evidence doesn't "converge" if you must alter it in material ways.

This is doubly problematic, as I've already explained to another gentleman in this thread that the far more likely explanation is that these wire mesh insertion devices are not i) misidentified columns and ii) not misaccounted for in the inventory sheet, and that rather they are exactly what they are intended to be given what we know about the operation of ventilation systems at this exact time.

Hopefully that assists!

[Nessie]

The most likely explanation as to what the 4 wire-mesh introduction devices and 4 wooden covers were, is the evidenced explanation.