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Germar Rudolf Interview with Mike Peinovich

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Earlier this year, Germar Rudolf was interviewed again by Mike Peinovich on TRS (they had interviewed him before).

https://therightstuff.biz/2024/03/26/mi ... m-eastern/

You will need to pay to get behind the paywall to hear the whole thing, but it's worth it in my opinion. In this interview, Rudolf gives us new information about the history of the samples he took. He refutes the claims by Avi Bitterman and others that there was something bad or suspect about the samples he tested and that he supposedly "admitted" this to Bitterman himself. It's all nonsense, as Rudolf tells us. The relevant part about that starts around at 1 hr 49 min in.
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I remember Cockerill kept saying he and Bitterman had some devastating takedown of Germar Rudolf's work. He was teasing that for like two years. It couldn't have been too good of an argument because I can't even remember what it was at this point.
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Archie wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 7:35 am I remember Cockerill kept saying he and Bitterman had some devastating takedown of Germar Rudolf's work. He was teasing that for like two years. It couldn't have been too good of an argument because I can't even remember what it was at this point.
Now that's bitter man.

It's the hide and seek game. They make a bold claim and then never come with the evidence. But hey, they have challenged one of those "evil Holocaust Deniers".

It's the play the man, not the ball routine.

As for forensic investigations of the place.

Until Leuchter there was never an independent forensic investigation of this. According to record there were however items tested by some Soviet or Polish commission. Tested for HCN and some were positive. What that was supposed to prove I don't know. But I think their commission at least had the right idea on methods in mind.

The Leuchter investigation was far from perfect. But I get that this was a first to him, that he was more of a technician, than a analytical chemist and that it was a pioneering work.

Germar Rudolf improved on this. The chemical arguments get better and also why it is plausible that Iron Blue would have formed.

The Polish investigators delivered something obnoxious. But I think we need to be lenient with them. They grew up in Communist Poland, so all they knew was that Scientist have to deliver results in line with what the party wants. And that is what they did. Their argument, why they ignored the iron blue was laughable. If anything is irrelevant after 40 years than it is the free floating HCN, especially when it is in amounts that are actually hardly measurable.


Now the absence of iron blue doesn't disprove that the rooms weren't used as homicidal gas chambers at one stage. But it demonstrates that there is no forensic evidence for this neither. And well. The Holocaust Promotor's own narrative would, if true, left a totally different profile of evidences at the place. What should be there, if they were right isn't. Everything that is observable in Auschwitz/Birkenau is in line with the Revisionist Thesis on the subject. And that actually settles the case. Holocaustians just continue to fight the dragon of denial that doesn't exist. Very convenient to play the hero there. Since they won't harm you and you actually get in the good books of powerful people.


Holocaust Revisionists have a high degree of certitude that they are right. If the Holocaustians were right, we wouldn't have to struggle to get good evidence out of them. They'd have a comprehensive, broad-based report ready to support their core claims. They won't have campaigns against "Holocaust Deniers" or to make sure there is Holocaust Indoctrination in schools.
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Hektor wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 8:13 am
Archie wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 7:35 am I remember Cockerill kept saying he and Bitterman had some devastating takedown of Germar Rudolf's work. He was teasing that for like two years. It couldn't have been too good of an argument because I can't even remember what it was at this point.
Now that's bitter man.

It's the hide and seek game. They make a bold claim and then never come with the evidence. But hey, they have challenged one of those "evil Holocaust Deniers".

It's the play the man, not the ball routine.

As for forensic investigations of the place.

Until Leuchter there was never an independent forensic investigation of this. According to record there were however items tested by some Soviet or Polish commission. Tested for HCN and some were positive. What that was supposed to prove I don't know. But I think their commission at least had the right idea on methods in mind.

The Leuchter investigation was far from perfect. But I get that this was a first to him, that he was more of a technician, than a analytical chemist and that it was a pioneering work.

Germar Rudolf improved on this. The chemical arguments get better and also why it is plausible that Iron Blue would have formed.

The Polish investigators delivered something obnoxious. But I think we need to be lenient with them. They grew up in Communist Poland, so all they knew was that Scientist have to deliver results in line with what the party wants. And that is what they did. Their argument, why they ignored the iron blue was laughable. If anything is irrelevant after 40 years than it is the free floating HCN, especially when it is in amounts that are actually hardly measurable.


Now the absence of iron blue doesn't disprove that the rooms weren't used as homicidal gas chambers at one stage. But it demonstrates that there is no forensic evidence for this neither. And well. The Holocaust Promotor's own narrative would, if true, left a totally different profile of evidences at the place. What should be there, if they were right isn't. Everything that is observable in Auschwitz/Birkenau is in line with the Revisionist Thesis on the subject. And that actually settles the case. Holocaustians just continue to fight the dragon of denial that doesn't exist. Very convenient to play the hero there. Since they won't harm you and you actually get in the good books of powerful people.


Holocaust Revisionists have a high degree of certitude that they are right. If the Holocaustians were right, we wouldn't have to struggle to get good evidence out of them. They'd have a comprehensive, broad-based report ready to support their core claims. They won't have campaigns against "Holocaust Deniers" or to make sure there is Holocaust Indoctrination in schools.
There are still doubts about topics such as Einsatzgruppen reports, special treatment in memorandum, and the diaries of high-ranking officials.

Now, regarding the bottleneck of mass gassings and cremations, we are certain that this process was humanly impossible.
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TlsMS93 wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 2:12 am..
There are still doubts about topics such as Einsatzgruppen reports, special treatment in memorandum, and the diaries of high-ranking officials.

Now, regarding the bottleneck of mass gassings and cremations, we are certain that this process was humanly impossible.

Indeed some of the documentation is controversial or ambiguous. But if the Einsatzgruppen narrative would be true, they won't mind about the reports, they'd be showing us huge mass graves and forensic reports on them from an independent side. They don't, so I consider the narrative to be false. And so should any other reasonable observer.

I think Sonderbehandlung / Special Treatment could mean various things. Diaries are opinions. Real mass killing operation do leave over real materials evidences. Bear in mind that we are not talking about one single homicide, where it would be feasible to make the evidence vanish. We're talking about 10.000s or 100.000s of people supposedly being killed in a narrow locality during a shorter period of time.

The evidence would have looked quite different than what is shown to tourists and pilgrims at the alleged extermination camps.

Not that the science is ever settled. But Revisionists have a case, while Exterminationist act as if they have one, just that this breaks down under scrutiny. All you get from them will be an "You are a Nazi that wants to hurt the victims".... Now the top Holocaust promotors don't say this bluntly, but they count on the rank and file doing this. And them getting aggressive towards "Holocaust Deniers" as well. The Narrative and Marketing Strategy is designed that way.
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Archie wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 7:35 am I remember Cockerill kept saying he and Bitterman had some devastating takedown of Germar Rudolf's work. He was teasing that for like two years. It couldn't have been too good of an argument because I can't even remember what it was at this point.
I went through his X posts and found many relating to this:

- https://ghostarchive.org/archive/iD28u
- https://ghostarchive.org/archive/8gqad
- https://ghostarchive.org/archive/C9xJD
- https://ghostarchive.org/archive/zBmCv
- https://ghostarchive.org/archive/dbu53

Also a comment on YouTube:

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6OfBAW ... rPmlo3WLnx

The claim is that Rudolf's sample was swapped or contaminated and that he presumably told Cockerill this over Skype (or somewhere else), since he says Rudolf admitted it to him. As you can see, he was hyping up a Substack article that he was writing, but as of today, no such post is found: https://web.archive.org/web/20250108010 ... om/archive. So either he wasn't writing one in the first place, or just never published it.

While looking through his posts, I did come across an article by someone named Gilles Karmasyn: https://phdn.org/negation/rudolf/rudolf ... tions.html. I can't find much information on this person, but it looks like they don't have a background in chemistry. Did Rudolf respond to this in that interview or elsewhere?
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TurboLaser wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:41 am
Archie wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 7:35 am I remember Cockerill kept saying he and Bitterman had some devastating takedown of Germar Rudolf's work. He was teasing that for like two years. It couldn't have been too good of an argument because I can't even remember what it was at this point.
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The claim is that Rudolf's sample was swapped or contaminated and that he presumably told Cockerill this over Skype (or somewhere else), since he says Rudolf admitted it to him. As you can see, he was hyping up a Substack article that he was writing, but as of today, no such post is found: https://web.archive.org/web/20250108010 ... om/archive. So either he wasn't writing one in the first place, or just never published it.
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So it's basically gossip they have to rely on here again.... There is of course always a possibility that something happened to samples. That is why one takes a higher number of samples to diminish the effects of error sources like this. But cut the crap on this one. The Exterminationists still failed to:
1. Demonstrated presence of forensic evidence that the locations in question were used for homicidal gassings.
2. Have no feasible procedure how that could be done.
3. refrain from using all kinds of tactics to avoid a negative conclusion of the debate.


And be frank on this. If what they allege, really happened, they would not have the trouble to go through all of this. They presented a comprehensive report elaborating on all the evidence they found. Not just showing some trinkets and citing some 'witnesses'....
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Hektor wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2025 6:25 am
TurboLaser wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:41 am
Archie wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 7:35 am I remember Cockerill kept saying he and Bitterman had some devastating takedown of Germar Rudolf's work. He was teasing that for like two years. It couldn't have been too good of an argument because I can't even remember what it was at this point.
....
The claim is that Rudolf's sample was swapped or contaminated and that he presumably told Cockerill this over Skype (or somewhere else), since he says Rudolf admitted it to him. As you can see, he was hyping up a Substack article that he was writing, but as of today, no such post is found: https://web.archive.org/web/20250108010 ... om/archive. So either he wasn't writing one in the first place, or just never published it.
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So it's basically gossip they have to rely on here again....
Enoch brought this upon again recently:

https://ghostarchive.org/archive/QSKI0

What's interesting is that in both the original post in this thread, and in the tweet above, it says that Rudolf admitted the "error" to Bitterman, but in the final tweet I linked in my last post, Cockerill says Rudolf admitted it him. Now, it's possible that Rudolf admitted it to both of them, but this just looks like a case of their stories not matching up. Given what I said earlier, Bitterman is probably the one who made this up in the first place, and Cockerill just repeated it, but claimed that Rudolf admitted it to him. Of course, this can all be cleared up since Cockerill says he has it on video, but I haven't seen him post this supposed video.
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TurboLaser wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2025 8:57 am
Hektor wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2025 6:25 am
TurboLaser wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:41 am

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The claim is that Rudolf's sample was swapped or contaminated and that he presumably told Cockerill this over Skype (or somewhere else), since he says Rudolf admitted it to him. As you can see, he was hyping up a Substack article that he was writing, but as of today, no such post is found: https://web.archive.org/web/20250108010 ... om/archive. So either he wasn't writing one in the first place, or just never published it.
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So it's basically gossip they have to rely on here again....
Enoch brought this upon again recently:

https://ghostarchive.org/archive/QSKI0

What's interesting is that in both the original post in this thread, and in the tweet above, it says that Rudolf admitted the "error" to Bitterman, but in the final tweet I linked in my last post, Cockerill says Rudolf admitted it him. Now, it's possible that Rudolf admitted it to both of them, but this just looks like a case of their stories not matching up. Given what I said earlier, Bitterman is probably the one who made this up in the first place, and Cockerill just repeated it, but claimed that Rudolf admitted it to him. Of course, this can all be cleared up since Cockerill says he has it on video, but I haven't seen him post this supposed video.
Cockerill and Bitterman have never released this supposedly damning video, nor have they explained what their point is in any detail. If they had something good, why would they sit on it for years? They wouldn't. They were probably just trying to hype the big debate they were trying to set up.

Since they never published anything, there's not much to respond to. Even so, according to fireofice in the OP, Germar was asked about it on this podcast and he disputes Cockerill's spin.
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