The Kola Study - An Own Goal by Team Holocaust

[Keen]

The compression of corpses is proven at Belzec.

Liar.

The existence of even one mass grave at Belzec has never been proven.

NOT. ONE.

EVER.

[Stubble]

Gerstein misses the quick lime, but, he does get the 4" of sand right. That's, SOP. Here you were claiming that that didn't exist, and now you dumbly quote it to Keen.

Which is it Bombsaway?

Don't get me wrong, Gerstein's testimony is garbage and his grave estimate in no way reflects reality, but, he did know the SOP, sort of.

ah I misread you there, thought you meant feet, my mistake. 10 centimeters of sand isn't a lot.

SOP is 4-6" of sand Bombsaway. 'Around' 10 centimeters.

Why you would think it was feet, I don't know. A 1 meter 'grave cap' was SOP for Ze Germans IIRC. I'd have to go back and look. The manuals are in the National Archives.

Basically, you can look at the surface area in square meters and subtract that many cubic meters as 'grave cap' as the 'grave cap' is supposed to be 'on grade' or 'level' with the ground.

I'm currently still winnowing 't' series documents however, looking for your missing jews.

Sorry, 1.5m grave cap, my bad. 1.5m.

[Keen]

What I'm asking you to do is provide a plausible explanation for how graves like #5 came to exist. Be detailed

Sure bombsaway, I'll be incredibly detailed.

As soon as you can prove that "grave #5" actually exists.

I'll wait.

[Keen]

If only there was a way of working out whose argument is correct, that excludes biased opinion and belief.....

There is Nessie:

A - $100.00 reward - is being offered for each one of the 33 alleged graves / cremation pits in question that is proven - with the same standard of proof applied in U. S. civil courts - to actually exist and to currently contain the remains of - at least 2 people.

https://thisisaboutscience.com/

What are you waiting for Nessie?

What are you so afraid of?

[bombsaway]

Gerstein misses the quick lime, but, he does get the 4" of sand right. That's, SOP. Here you were claiming that that didn't exist, and now you dumbly quote it to Keen.

Which is it Bombsaway?

Don't get me wrong, Gerstein's testimony is garbage and his grave estimate in no way reflects reality, but, he did know the SOP, sort of.

ah I misread you there, thought you meant feet, my mistake. 10 centimeters of sand isn't a lot.

SOP is 4-6" of sand Bombsaway. 'Around' 10 centimeters.

Why you would think it was feet, I don't know. A 1 meter 'grave cap' was SOP for Ze Germans IIRC. I'd have to go back and look. The manuals are in the National Archives.

Basically, you can look at the surface area in square meters and subtract that many cubic meters as 'grave cap' as the 'grave cap' is supposed to be 'on grade' or 'level' with the ground.

I'm currently still winnowing 't' series documents however, looking for your missing jews.

Sorry, 1.5m grave cap, my bad. 1.5m.

Maybe you use that grave cap (as I understand it the amount of soil you put on top the grave) if you don't have space constraints. If you do the 10 centimeters described by Gerstein could suffice.

[Keen]

ah I misread you there, thought you meant feet, my mistake. 10 centimeters of sand isn't a lot.

SOP is 4-6" of sand Bombsaway. 'Around' 10 centimeters.

Why you would think it was feet, I don't know. A 1 meter 'grave cap' was SOP for Ze Germans IIRC. I'd have to go back and look. The manuals are in the National Archives.

Basically, you can look at the surface area in square meters and subtract that many cubic meters as 'grave cap' as the 'grave cap' is supposed to be 'on grade' or 'level' with the ground.

I'm currently still winnowing 't' series documents however, looking for your missing jews.

Sorry, 1.5m grave cap, my bad. 1.5m.

Maybe you use that grave cap (as I understand it the amount of soil you put on top the grave) if you don't have space constraints. If you do the 10 centimeters described by Gerstein could suffice.

Look at bombsaway run from the simple questions:

#1 - Is it - True. - or - False. - that; The USHMM alleges that 600,000 jews were killed in Belzec - ??

#2 - Is it - True. - or - False. - that; It is alleged in orthodox histriography that the remains of the jews who were killed in Belzec currently lie in 33 mass graves within the boundary of the camp - ??

#3 - Is it - True. - or - False. - that; The largest (in terms of quantity of remains) of the 33 alleged mass graves in question, contains the remains of less than 5 people - ??

#4 - If your answer to question #3 was - False. - then; list all of the graves that have been “scientifically proven” to currently exist at Belzec, in which verified human remains have been uncovered / tangibly located via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented archaeology - that contains the remains of more than 5 people.

[Stubble]

ah I misread you there, thought you meant feet, my mistake. 10 centimeters of sand isn't a lot.

SOP is 4-6" of sand Bombsaway. 'Around' 10 centimeters.

Why you would think it was feet, I don't know. A 1 meter 'grave cap' was SOP for Ze Germans IIRC. I'd have to go back and look. The manuals are in the National Archives.

Basically, you can look at the surface area in square meters and subtract that many cubic meters as 'grave cap' as the 'grave cap' is supposed to be 'on grade' or 'level' with the ground.

I'm currently still winnowing 't' series documents however, looking for your missing jews.

Sorry, 1.5m grave cap, my bad. 1.5m.

Maybe you use that grave cap (as I understand it the amount of soil you put on top the grave) if you don't have space constraints. If you do the 10 centimeters described by Gerstein could suffice.

10cm between layers, 1.5m grave cap.

Are you seriously saying somebody would put 10cm of dirt on top of a mass grave?

[bombsaway]

SOP is 4-6" of sand Bombsaway. 'Around' 10 centimeters.

Why you would think it was feet, I don't know. A 1 meter 'grave cap' was SOP for Ze Germans IIRC. I'd have to go back and look. The manuals are in the National Archives.

Basically, you can look at the surface area in square meters and subtract that many cubic meters as 'grave cap' as the 'grave cap' is supposed to be 'on grade' or 'level' with the ground.

I'm currently still winnowing 't' series documents however, looking for your missing jews.

Sorry, 1.5m grave cap, my bad. 1.5m.

Maybe you use that grave cap (as I understand it the amount of soil you put on top the grave) if you don't have space constraints. If you do the 10 centimeters described by Gerstein could suffice.

10cm between layers, 1.5m grave cap.

Are you seriously saying somebody would put 10cm of dirt on top of a mass grave?

That's what Gerstein said, that was the grave cap. "Then ten centimeters of sand were spread over the pit, so that only a few heads and arms still rose from it here and there."

[Stubble]

Maybe you use that grave cap (as I understand it the amount of soil you put on top the grave) if you don't have space constraints. If you do the 10 centimeters described by Gerstein could suffice.

10cm between layers, 1.5m grave cap.

Are you seriously saying somebody would put 10cm of dirt on top of a mass grave?

That's what Gerstein said, that was the grave cap. "Then ten centimeters of sand were spread over the pit, so that only a few heads and arms still rose from it here and there."

No offense, I did have to check. You aren't lying, he did say that. Still ain't SOP though.

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/th ... ein-report

The naked corpses were carried on wooden stretchers to pits only a few meters away, measuring 100 x 20 x 12 meters. After a few days the corpses welled up and a short time later they collapsed, so that one could throw a new layer of bodies upon them. Then ten centimeters of sand were spread over the pit, so that a few heads and arms still rose from it here and there. At such a place I saw Jews climbing over the corpses and working. One told me that by mistake those who arrived dead had not been stripped. Of course this has to be done later because of the Spinnstoffsammlung and valuables which otherwise they would take with them into the grave.

Just from a health and hygiene standpoint, that's ridiculous. That would have been foul, pestilent, and would have caused the staff to become ill. That's, unsafe, unsanitary and repulsive.

Of course, there's about another 10 miles of ridiculousness from Gerstein.

[bombsaway]

10cm between layers, 1.5m grave cap.

Are you seriously saying somebody would put 10cm of dirt on top of a mass grave?

That's what Gerstein said, that was the grave cap. "Then ten centimeters of sand were spread over the pit, so that only a few heads and arms still rose from it here and there."

No offense, I did have to check. You aren't lying, he did say that. Still ain't SOP though.

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/th ... ein-report

The naked corpses were carried on wooden stretchers to pits only a few meters away, measuring 100 x 20 x 12 meters. After a few days the corpses welled up and a short time later they collapsed, so that one could throw a new layer of bodies upon them. Then ten centimeters of sand were spread over the pit, so that a few heads and arms still rose from it here and there. At such a place I saw Jews climbing over the corpses and working. One told me that by mistake those who arrived dead had not been stripped. Of course this has to be done later because of the Spinnstoffsammlung and valuables which otherwise they would take with them into the grave.

Just from a health and hygiene standpoint, that's ridiculous. That would have been foul, pestilent, and would have caused the staff to become ill. That's, unsafe, unsanitary and repulsive.

Of course, there's about another 10 miles of ridiculousness from Gerstein.

Well we have the report from OK Ostrow, which was 20 km away

"OK Ostrow reports that the Jews in Treblinka are not sufficiently buried and therefore an unbearable smell of corpses befouls the air."

I want to evaluate another one of your claims "would have caused the staff to become ill."

You are very confident here, do you have anything to back this claim up?

[Stubble]

I want to evaluate another one of your claims "would have caused the staff to become ill."

You are very confident here, do you have anything to back this claim up?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_ ... ead_bodies

To those in close contact with the dead, such as rescue workers, there is a health risk from chronic infectious diseases which those killed may have been suffering from and which spread by direct contact, including hepatitis B and hepatitis C, HIV, enteric intestinal pathogens, tuberculosis, cholera and others

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-16353-x

Blowflies and houseflies are the first organisms to arrive on carcasses, decaying organic matter and faeces on which they feed, breed, and lay eggs. It is likely that they acquire a significant part of their microbiome from such environments, which they transport and subsequently deposit onto other hosts, such as humans, animals, and plants. 

/shrug

A giant pile of rotten corpses is, not sanitary, and is in reality, a rotten cesspool. I'm, surprised you are unaware of this fact.

[Keen]

Notice how there is dead silence about the ash layers except for Nazgul's attempt.

It has never been proven that the fraudulently alleged "ash layers" in the fraudulently alleged "huge mass gravses" actually exist.

Just like the "huge mass graves," the fraudulently alleged "ash layers" are unsubstantiated allegations made by a fruad.

It's like arguing whether Bigfoot combs his hair to the right or to the left.

[bombsaway]

I want to evaluate another one of your claims "would have caused the staff to become ill."

You are very confident here, do you have anything to back this claim up?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_ ... ead_bodies

To those in close contact with the dead, such as rescue workers, there is a health risk from chronic infectious diseases which those killed may have been suffering from and which spread by direct contact, including hepatitis B and hepatitis C, HIV, enteric intestinal pathogens, tuberculosis, cholera and others

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-16353-x

Blowflies and houseflies are the first organisms to arrive on carcasses, decaying organic matter and faeces on which they feed, breed, and lay eggs. It is likely that they acquire a significant part of their microbiome from such environments, which they transport and subsequently deposit onto other hosts, such as humans, animals, and plants. 

/shrug

A giant pile of rotten corpses is, not sanitary, and is in reality, a rotten cesspool. I'm, surprised you are unaware of this fact.

You have to show that there's a risk of aerial transmission from a hundreds of feet away, where the guards would be. Is it just the flies. Miasma is not real

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miasma_theory

[Keen]

I would just point out that it one of the largest mass grave sites ever found.

Nessie,

1 - In total, how many single, disconnected human teeth have been tangibly discovered within the 33 alleged Belzec graves / cremation pits in question: __?__.

6 - List all of the Belzec graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove actually exist and currently contain at least an iota of human remains: __?__.

11 - List all of the Belzec graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove currently contain the remains of at least 2 human beings: __?__.

16 - List all of the Belzec graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove currently contain the remains of at least 21 human beings: __?__.

21 - Of the 33 alleged Belzec graves / cremation pits in question - the one that you can conclusively prove currently contains the most human remains is number: __?__.

[Stubble]

I want to evaluate another one of your claims "would have caused the staff to become ill."

You are very confident here, do you have anything to back this claim up?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_ ... ead_bodies

To those in close contact with the dead, such as rescue workers, there is a health risk from chronic infectious diseases which those killed may have been suffering from and which spread by direct contact, including hepatitis B and hepatitis C, HIV, enteric intestinal pathogens, tuberculosis, cholera and others

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-16353-x

Blowflies and houseflies are the first organisms to arrive on carcasses, decaying organic matter and faeces on which they feed, breed, and lay eggs. It is likely that they acquire a significant part of their microbiome from such environments, which they transport and subsequently deposit onto other hosts, such as humans, animals, and plants. 

/shrug

A giant pile of rotten corpses is, not sanitary, and is in reality, a rotten cesspool. I'm, surprised you are unaware of this fact.

You have to show that there's a risk of aerial transmission from a hundreds of feet away, where the guards would be. Is it just the flies. Miasma is not real

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miasma_theory

Aether theory is also bunk. Flies are a vector, and easy to cite, but they are not alone. There are a whole host of other issues. Runoff for example becomes a concern. Of course, ground water contamination. Contact from flies and other vermin exposed.

You, think it is just hunky dory to be a few yards from a few hundred thousand rotting corpses? That's seriously your stance?

Look, the SOP was 10cm of sand all right...

Between layers...

With a 1.5m grave cap.

To, prevent illness from, a mass of rotting corpses.

This is still roughly SOP for mass graves.

Can you just imagine for a minute what would happen with a good strong rain if you had hundreds of thousands of rotting bodies in a pit with 10cm of dirt on it? Where are those bodies going to go Bombsaway? They going to just obediently stay in place?

Look, in Louisiana, for example, and Georgia, it is not unheard of for a corpse buried 6 feet under ground, by itself, to burst up in a strong rain. Granted, it takes something prolonged and significant, but, it does happen.

10cm...

You are going to have a river of shit to wade through in a drizzle, and in a floater? You are going to up up to your neck in rotting dead bodies.