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For any lurkers or tourists who may be new to all of this, what Bombsaway is referring to has been addressed in multiple places such as:

https://www.codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=107

https://www.codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=224

and the coup de grace:

With regard to excavations at Sobibor, Thomas Kues states:[15]

In an article published in The Scotsman on November 26, 2001, we read that Polish archaeologist A. Kola and his team had discovered seven mass graves at the Sobibor site. […] Despite seven years having passed since the drills and diggings were reportedly made, not a single article, paper or scientific report has appeared on them, neither in English, Polish, nor in any other language.

No articles, papers or scientific reports have been published because A. Kola and his team had nothing to report that would benefit the claim that Sobibor was an extermination camp.
And since this is the designated "Flat Earth" thread, I will resist the urge to explain all of Bombsaways problems to him again, nor will I ask him for a copy of this Kola study.
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HansHill wrote: Thu Aug 14, 2025 10:38 pm For any lurkers or tourists who may be new to all of this, what Bombsaway is referring to has been addressed in multiple places such as:

https://www.codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=107

https://www.codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=224

and the coup de grace:

With regard to excavations at Sobibor, Thomas Kues states:[15]

In an article published in The Scotsman on November 26, 2001, we read that Polish archaeologist A. Kola and his team had discovered seven mass graves at the Sobibor site. […] Despite seven years having passed since the drills and diggings were reportedly made, not a single article, paper or scientific report has appeared on them, neither in English, Polish, nor in any other language.

No articles, papers or scientific reports have been published because A. Kola and his team had nothing to report that would benefit the claim that Sobibor was an extermination camp.
And since this is the designated "Flat Earth" thread, I will resist the urge to explain all of Bombsaways problems to him again, nor will I ask him for a copy of this Kola study.
re Sobibor "Coup de grace", yawn

Kues is just plain wrong (7 years later!), study was published in 2001 and it's a similar story to Belzec
Grave
no 1 is located in the north - eastern part of hectare 17, just west from
the memorial to victims. The site was excavated by 27 drills. Horizontally, it
measures 20 x 20 m and is up to 4.30 m deep. It was a body burning grave.




Grave no 2 is
located in the western part of the hectare 17, south from the memorial. It was
excavated by 28 drills. Horizontally its shape is irregular, measuring at least
20 x 25 m – with its longer side in NS position – and with depth up to 4
metres. It was a body burning grave.



Grave no 3 is located in the south- western part of hectare 11 and north
- western part of hectare 17. It was excavated by 17 drills. Horizontally, it's
irregular, measuring around 20 x 12 m - with its longer side in NS position.
The biggest part of the grave is located under north - western part of the
memorial. It’s up to 5.80 m deep. In bottom layers, the grave is bony, with
human remains in wax- fat transformation. The upper layers are a mixture of
burnt body remains with layers of lime stone, sand and charcoal. The northern
part of the grave is located near to northern part of the grave no 4. The more
precise location of the graves requires additional research.



Grave no 4. It’s a grave with significant size, located in southern part
of hectare 11, as well as northern and central parts of hectare 18. It was
excavated by 78 drills. Horizontally, in NS position, it measures 70 x 20-25 m
with the depth of around 5m. In bottom layers the grave is bony, with human
remains in wax- fat transformation. The upper layers are a mixture of burnt
body remains with layers of lime stone, sand and charcoal.
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/holocau ... t1071.html

The comparison to flat earth theory I would make here is the similar lack of positive evidence, especially concerning the alleged cover up of flat earth by government and scientific institutions that would know about it.
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HansHill wrote: Thu Aug 14, 2025 9:25 pm
ConfusedJew wrote: Thu Aug 14, 2025 9:06 pm Ways in which Holocaust denial is similar to Flat Earth Theorizing:
Except Holocaust revisionists have been exceptionally successful in demanding devastating revisions to the Orthodox narrative over the decades

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To my mind, no "Flat Earther" has demanded devastating revisions from NASA to review their models?

What gives Confused Jew? You wouldn't be overtly trying to strain a comparison that doesn't work, would you?
Raul Hillberg was a revisionist historian. You really are stretching to put holocaust denialism in the same camp as people like Hillberg.
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Legitimate historical revisionism involves re-examining details, motivations, or interpretations of events based on new evidence or analysis.

For example revisionists will investigate:
The exact number of victims in specific locations.
The motivations behind particular Nazi policies.
The role of different institutions or countries.
These discussions are part of mainstream Holocaust studies and are not denial.

Holocaust “revisionists” who questioned specific historical details while staying within evidence-based scholarship, include historians like:
Christopher Browning – studied the implementation of the Final Solution, including nuanced discussions of motivations.
Saul Friedländer – analyzed Holocaust historiography and perpetrator motivations.
Ian Kershaw – wrote extensively on Hitler and the administrative machinery of genocide.

Methodologically, pseudorevisionists tend to indulge in significant historical fallacies such as:

Cherry-picking evidence and selectively using documents or testimonies that seem to support their claim while ignoring the vast majority of evidence that contradicts it.
Example: Focusing on minor discrepancies in survivor testimonies to argue that the entire Holocaust is fabricated.
Why it’s wrong: Historical methodology requires evaluating all evidence in context, not picking convenient fragments.

Misinterpretation or distortion of sources often misquotes, mistranslates, or takes documents out of context.
Example: Misrepresenting Nazi documents to suggest gas chambers didn’t exist.
Why it’s wrong: Proper historical research requires accurate reading of primary sources in context.

Reliance on discredited evidence like the Leuchter report which has been debunked by many mainstream chemists.
Why it’s wrong: Scholarship requires verifiable and authentic sources.

Logical fallacies and false equivalences
They often use argumentation like:
“If some testimonies are inconsistent, the whole Holocaust didn’t happen.”
“Because one estimate of victims is wrong, all statistics are fake.”
Why it’s wrong: Inconsistent details are normal in massive historical events; rejecting all evidence because of minor errors is a fallacy.

Ideological bias
Their conclusions are predetermined by political or ideological motives (anti-Semitism, neo-Nazism).
Evidence is interpreted to fit the conclusion, rather than conclusions drawn from evidence.
Why it’s wrong: Genuine historical research seeks objectivity; ideology-driven interpretation undermines credibility.

Ignoring corroboration
They dismiss overwhelming convergence of evidence: survivor testimonies, Nazi documentation, photographs, trials, forensic investigations.
Why it’s wrong: Legitimate historical analysis weighs all sources together; denialists ignore the body of corroborating evidence.

In short, pseudo-revisionists violate every principle of critical historical methodology: proper source evaluation, context, cross-checking, logical reasoning, and impartiality.

Do you guys do any cross checking against the mainstream sources? That seems important to gain broader credibility? Do any of you harbor anti-semitic biases or are you looking at this completely objectively as you would any other group of people?
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ConfusedJew wrote: Fri Aug 15, 2025 1:22 am Do you guys do any cross checking against the mainstream sources? That seems important to gain broader credibility? Do any of you harbor anti-semitic biases or are you looking at this completely objectively as you would any other group of people?
Daily reminder that 'ConfusedJew' has been misrepresenting himself since day one on this forum -- everything he says or portrays himself to be is simply to defend Jewish interests, truth be damned.

Further reading: https://www.codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=339

ConfusedJew behaves like an in-the-flesh Jewish trope/caricature then is shameless enough to gaslight about 'anti-semitic biases'.

Ya' can't make this shit up.
To those who still believe it: grow up. To those lying about it consciously: may you burn in hell.
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That's obviously untrue. When you present an alternative fact or interpretation, I address it when I have the capacity to do so.

I have been upfront about being Jewish and believing that the Holocaust existed. I just think you are like a flat earther and you won't directly address any of those claims.
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ConfusedJew wrote: Fri Aug 15, 2025 3:19 am I have been upfront about being Jewish and believing that the Holocaust existed.
(sigh :? :roll: ) No-one contests whether ‘the holocaust existed’ or not. (How many times does this need to be explained?)

That’s equivalent to concluding that if a person refutes (with evidence) the belief that ‘Hitler started WW2’ and the idea that ‘the Nazis were evil’ then they are saying “WW2 didn’t exist” and are denying WW2 “happened”.

SUMMARY: We are plagued by a numbskull! Someone who is impervious to reason and who has learnt literally nothing over three months.
A ‘holocaust’ believer’s problem is not technical, factual, empirical or archeological — their problem is psychological.
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The above is screengrabs taken from this short pamphlet available here: https://holocausthandbooks.com/wp-conte ... ticism.pdf

It was previously linked to, but ignored by the confused jew.
ConfusedJew wrote: Tue Aug 12, 2025 11:04 pmDo most of you reject that the Nazis killed innocent Jews?
ConfusedJew wrote: Fri Aug 15, 2025 3:19 am I have been upfront about being Jewish and believing that the Holocaust existed.
After three whole months CJ still has no idea what is actually being disputed and why.

SUGGESTION TO THE MODERATORS:
I second Hans Hill’s previous suggestion that CJ not be allowed to lower the calibre of the CODOH discussion forum with further inane nonsense UNTIL they have read an actual beginner book or brochure.

There is an essay here explaining the various book, flyer and video options for getting familiar with the core principles.
Many of those have very generously been made accessible for free online at HolocaustHandbooks.com.
If CJ isn’t prepared to spend just a few days doing that then they perhaps shouldn’t be allowed to participate here.
What Is the Best Introduction into Revisionism?
By Germar Rudolf ∙ June 18, 2024 Last updated on June 29, 2025
“People have asked me repeatedly over the past twenty-five years or so what book or video I think is the best to recommend to a newcomer to Holocaust revisionism, or even to a person who has not yet opened their mind to the idea of questioning the orthodox Holocaust narrative…”
Read it here:
https://codoh.com/library/document/what ... visionism/
BOOKS FOR BEGINNERS

The Holocaust: an introduction. By Timothy Dalton. Only 136 pages.
https://armreg.co.uk/product/the-holoca ... -evidence/

Breaking the spell: The Holocaust, Myth & Reality. By Nicholas Kollerstrom. Only 286 pages.
https://holocausthandbooks.com/book/breaking-the-spell/

Debating the Holocaust —A New Look at Both Sides By Thomas Dalton. Only 346 pages.
https://holocausthandbooks.com/book/deb ... holocaust/

OR

Read a Leaflet or a Brochure
https://holocausthandbooks.com/

The Holocaust Controversy: The Case for Open Debate.
This letter-size flyer puts into a nutshell what Holocaust revisionism is all about.

Letter-Size Flyer HOLOCAUST REVISIONISM IN 10 MINUTES by Thomas Dalton, PhD.
This double-sided letter-size leaflet also gives the novice a brief introduction into what Holocaust Revisionism is. It has a different format (plain letter-size), writing style and contents than the above leaflet.

Holocaust Skepticism: 20 Questions and Answers about Holocaust Revisionism.
This stapled, full-colour brochure of 19 pages introduces the novice to the concept of Holocaust revisionism, and answers 20 tough questions, among them:
What does Holocaust revisionism claim?
Why should I take Holocaust revisionism more seriously than the claim that the earth is flat?
What about the pictures of corpse piles in the camps?
How about the testimonies by survivors and confessions by perpetrators?
What does it matter whether prisoners died from disease or poison gas?

The Holocaust: Facts versus Fiction.
This 36-page booklet gives a condensed overview of the latest research on the Holocaust with references to literature where you can find more on the subject. It also explains why the issue is important and why many governments brutally suppresses dissenting views. It contains lots of references to free e-books and videos, and it lists the entire book program of Armreg Ltd (at the time of going to press). You can download it right here .
A ‘holocaust’ believer’s problem is not technical, factual, empirical or archeological — their problem is psychological.
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Callafangers wrote: Thu Aug 14, 2025 5:36 pm
Nessie wrote:Living in camps and ghettos. The logistics accommodating, clothing, feeding and guarding millions of Jews in 1944 would have left a lot of documentary and eyewitness evidence.
All we know is that they were put into "quarantine" and that this was part of postwar resettlement plans and also that this entire process was kept very secret due to the controversy it entailed.
Claiming that the Nazis hid 6 million Jews, in total secrecy, in 1944, as part of a resettlement programme, whilst they knew they were being accused of murdering them, is on a par with believing the earth is flat.

Six million people in camps and ghettos would leave a lot of evidence. The Nazis would have used that evidence to counter the rumours of mass murder.
You have this assumption that documentation of such a top-secret facility (or set thereof) would leave documentation like Auschwitz or other facilities which were not near the Eastern front and were under entirely different administrative structure. But there is no reason to assume either that:
  • Documentation was kept to a similar standard
  • Documentation was maintained in the same locations
  • Documentation should have survived post-war in Soviet hands
What we do have is official plans to resettle Jews, bizarre weaponized propaganda making it necessary to conceal perceived atrocities or the location of potential partisan recruits and subversives, and statements which we have every reason to consider authoritative and genuine (e.g. Goebbels' diary) stating plainly that these specific Jews were not genocided but, instead, "in quarantine" in the East.
That is your assumption.
Nessie wrote:There is evidence of huge areas of disturbed ground containing cremated remains and the disposal of cremains in rivers at A-B. You just chose not to believe that evidence, so you have to speculate. I don't speculate, I follow the evidence.
It is you who has to speculate, Nessie. Revisionists have taken the only attempts in earnest to ascertain any reasonable estimate of the actual quantity of human remains at any of these sites. By all accounts, when analysis is proportionate to the evidence reported on in the physical investigations, the number of corpses at these sites fall short by orders of magnitude to what they should be, if your narrative were true. This is critical because, if the 'Holocaust' is true, there absolutely must be upwards of millions of Jews buried at these precise locations. Finding a tiny fraction of this figure is far more supportive of these sites having been used as mass cremation facilities on occasion but primarily for property sorting and transit, which is exactly what the documentation indicates 'Aktion Reinhardt' was all about.
Your argument from incredulity, is a logical fallacy. There is evidence to prove over a million were buried at the AR camps. Just because you cannot work out quantities to your satisfaction, does not cancel out that evidence. If you really were a revisionist, you would produce evidence from witnesses, documents, archaeology and prove what really happened.
Nessie wrote:There is evidence of what happened to Jews who ended up on the Soviet side of the front line. Many got sent to gulags, as the Soviets did not trust them. The issue is the Jews who were arrested by the Nazis. They are the ones for whom evidence trails run out, primarily inside only 5 camps.
There is scant evidence of what happened to some Jews on the Soviet side, and yes, the Soviets didn't trust them. This means expulsion or mass murder was by no means off the list, or at least targeting their Jewish identity to press for assimilation. But the question is also whether the Soviets saw value in postwar 'denazification' efforts (this is certainly the case). Either way, the Soviet attitude and position toward Jews at this time is deeply problematic for your position.
There is evidence of numerous population movements during and after WWII. The one exception, is your secret resettlement programme of the Jews, by the Nazis, 1939-44, with at least 6 million Jews living in camps and ghettos in 1944.
Nessie wrote:
Callafangers wrote:We can assume Jews and their communist networks were disconnected from postwar 'denazification' efforts and awareness of the role of a supposed 'millions of missing Jews' in that narrative and would prefer instead to be documented as "found" rather than "gassed".

We can speculate that someone should/would have been looking for a particular set of displaced Jews postwar and documenting their timelines and travels. We can assume there were no Jews who might have contradicted your narrative, had they been asked 60 years ago while they were still alive.
You are admitting the use of assumption and speculation, rather than evidence. The bottom line is, you cannot evidence what happened.
My statements were written tongue-in-cheek, clearly. The point is: Jews were overwhelmingly involved in communist networks hell-bent on sowing anti-German atrocity narratives. This is indisputable. The stark and inexplicable, highly-unusual pattern of lies within anti-German testimony counts as compelling evidence that such efforts were prevalent in key claims of the 'Holocaust'. There are hundreds if not thousands of such examples, compared to your mere dozens of witnesses who tell anything resembling a viable and evidence-based genocide narrative.
Nessie wrote:
We can pretend your pool of witnesses is honest (or at least mostly so) and that wartime liars suddenly became interested in universal truth and that their having literally conquered the world is totally inconsequential in being able to shape its narratives thereafter.
It is terrible for you, when you admit to having to pretend.
We can pretend to believe that despite all of the liars we know exist, not a single one of them ever made it into the historical or postwar trial archives to meddle with the record, for better or worse.

We can do all of this assumption, speculation, etc. and maybe then do you have a point.
I follow the evidence, to establish what happened. You assume, speculate and pretend.
Or let's just keep it real: you can say nothing of the 'people who would have left a lot of evidence', given that you haven't found them -- and not finding them much better reflects movement than 'extermination'.
Not being able to find people, fits better with extermination, than movement.
You need them to be buried under Treblinka, though... because how else can you face your son at his bar mitzvah and tell him it'll be easy to keep swindling the goyim? :lol:
That comment explains your motive and why you believe in a hoax so impossible, that it is akin to believing the earth is flat.
You are really struggling to understand sarcasm, ridicule, etc. You receive it so often that you can't tell the difference anymore.

:lol:
You are struggling to evidence what happened. Like a flat earther struggles to evidence the earth is flat.
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Nessie wrote: Fri Aug 15, 2025 6:35 am Claiming that the Nazis hid 6 million Jews, in total secrecy, in 1944, as part of a resettlement programme, whilst they knew they were being accused of murdering them, is on a par with believing the earth is flat.
The Fplo to Treblinka transports show it is highly likely most got off at the locations of Jewish Labour camps. They were not in ghettos.
You are struggling to evidence what happened. Like a flat earther struggles to evidence the earth is flat.
You failing to see the obvious is your issue.
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Nazgul wrote: Fri Aug 15, 2025 7:15 am
Nessie wrote: Fri Aug 15, 2025 6:35 am Claiming that the Nazis hid 6 million Jews, in total secrecy, in 1944, as part of a resettlement programme, whilst they knew they were being accused of murdering them, is on a par with believing the earth is flat.
The Fplo to Treblinka transports show it is highly likely most got off at the locations of Jewish Labour camps. They were not in ghettos.
Not all Jews arrived at Treblinka directly from ghettos; many were first sent to labor camps. These labor camps often existed in rural or industrial areas outside ghettos. It’s important to note that Treblinka’s deportation records are incomplete, but the pattern of using labor camps as staging points is consistent with research by historians such as Yitzhak Arad and Raul Hilberg.
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HolyH believers are actually the ones most comparable to religious flat-earthers

There is a well-known observation encapsulated in the phrase "every accusation is an admission" which applies here.

Confused jew is accusing those who have questioned, considered, investigated, read, researched, checked and double-checked of being as ill-informed and as impervious to reason as a ‘flat-earther’.

Yet IRONICALLY, it is actually the accuser here (CJ) who refuses to question, consider, investigate, read, research and check.

They instead insist on letting an Artificial intelligence — that is programmed to ONLY give answers designed to perpetuate the permitted view — do their thinking for them.
Which is equivalent to people in the time of Copernicus and Galileo letting religuosly indoctrinated priests and bishops do their thinking for them.

"Every accusation is an admission" applies in spades to the holocaust ‘mass-gassing’ promoters.
E.g.
- Evil-ones cruelly genocided millions of unwanted civilian populations = Bolshevik jews did that in 1933 (Holodomor).
- Hitler supposedly started WW2 = it was actually international jewry who publicly declared war against Germany in March 1933.
- Nazis started killing jews = the first killings were of NSDAP members Wilhelm Gustloff (1936) and Ernst von Rath (1938) by jewish assassins (murderers).
- Extremely sadistic treatment of prisoners in camps = Jews did that post-war to their captives (see John Sack, ‘An Eye for an Eye’).
Etc., etc.

The same "every accusation is an admission" applies to zionist jews.
E.g.
• Their enemies use civilians as human shields = in reality the IoF routinely used kidnapped palestinian kids to go into buildings and tunnels to see if they were booby-trapped.
• Their enemies place their command posts under hospitals = zionist occupiers have that in Tel Aviv.
• Military facilities in heavily-populated civilian areas = Tel Aviv has that also.
• Beheaded babies = photos of numerous Palestinian decapitated babies has emerged.
• Widespread use of rape = standard IoF practice; one encouraged by military rabbis.
• Teaching their children to hate from kindergarten = Zionist settlers have been doing that for decades, as we are now witnessing.
Endemic institutionalised anti-semitism = that’s what zionist jews worldwide have towards arabs who are a semitic people with a semitic language.
Etc., etc.

SUMMARY:
The observation is that narcissistic people accuse others of the very same wrongdoing and bad behaviour that they themselves are doing. What is also called ‘psychological projection’.
Viz. out of denial, a person projects their own inadequacies onto the one that their OWN bad behaviour or attitude is directed towards.

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FLAT-EARTH: COPERNICUS AND GALILEO versus THE ESTABLISHMENT
It was Copernicus and Galileo who were proven to be right and who had to battle against entrenched, unreasonable attitudes of the establishment and majority view.

It was Copernicus and Galileo who realised the reality by GOING AGAINST the consensus view and using scientific tests, evaluation and critical observation.

It was Galileo who was silenced, punished, imprisoned and forced to disown empirical reality to appease the religious sensibilities of irrational, ignorant ‘true-believers’.

It was those who published scientific research proving a helio-centric solar system whose books were outlawed and banned.

It was religious people who ostrich-like avoided scientific reality because it upset their religious beliefs in an unscientific, traditional belief-system based on anecdotal, eye-witness’ accounts that couldn’t be questioned of jews like Moses, Elijah, St.Paul, St. Luke, etc., and a world that had “four corners”.
Isaiah 11:12 — "And gather the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth."
Revelation 7:1 — "After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth."
Ezekiel 7:2 — "An end! The end has come upon the four corners of the land."
Psalms 74:17 — “You laid out the four corners of the earth, shaped the seasons of summer and winter”.
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It is actually HOLOCAUST TRUE-BELIEVERS who represent the new ‘FLAT EARTHERS’
Here at CODOH we have two people arguing the majority view is always right.
Yeah, sure. Which was pretty much the argument used against Galileo.

One of these two is a person calling himself a ‘confused jew’ who refuses to read science-based refutations of his traditional, consensus belief-system.

It is HOLOCAUST TRUE-BELIEVERS who PUNISH THOSE WHO REFUTE THEIR ‘FLAT-EARTH’ HOLYHOAX BELIEFS.
The great irony here is that it is those who are steadfast believers of the WW2 mass-gassing allegation (i.e. ‘the holocaust’) who punish and persecute anyone who exposes the falsity of their quasi-religious belief-system.
Ermmmm… pretty much exactly like the flat-earthers did to Galileo.
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bombsaway wrote: Thu Aug 14, 2025 11:16 pm re Sobibor "Coup de grace", yawn
Kues is just plain wrong (7 years later!), study was published in 2001 and it's a similar story to Belzec

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/holocau ... t1071.html
I think you are not posting in good faith BA.

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MGK are clearly aware of this research report from Kola and have referenced it themselves as shown above. Likewise the translation you sent to me appears to be blogger-commissioned translation. I won't attack the veracity of the translation or call it amateur, I'm sure it's just fine but... that is kind of the point that MGK are making, isn't it Bombsaway?
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Wahrheitssucher wrote: Sat Aug 16, 2025 1:58 pm .
HolyH believers are actually the ones most comparable to religious flat-earthers

There is a well-known observation encapsulated in the phrase "every accusation is an admission" which applies here.

Confused jew is accusing those who have questioned, considered, investigated, read, researched, checked and double-checked of being as ill-informed and as impervious to reason as a ‘flat-earther’.

Yet IRONICALLY, it is actually the accuser here (CJ) who refuses to question, consider, investigate, read, research and check.

They instead insist on letting an Artificial intelligence — that is programmed to ONLY give answers designed to perpetuate the permitted view — do their thinking for them.
Which is equivalent to people in the time of Copernicus and Galileo letting religuosly indoctrinated priests and bishops do their thinking for them.

"Every accusation is an admission" applies in spades to the holocaust ‘mass-gassing’ promoters.
E.g.
- Evil-ones cruelly genocided millions of unwanted civilian populations = Bolshevik jews did that in 1933 (Holodomor).
- Hitler supposedly started WW2 = it was actually international jewry who publicly declared war against Germany in March 1933.
- Nazis started killing jews = the first killings were of NSDAP members Wilhelm Gustloff (1936) and Ernst von Rath (1938) by jewish assassins (murderers).
- Extremely sadistic treatment of prisoners in camps = Jews did that post-war to their captives (see John Sack, ‘An Eye for an Eye’).
Etc., etc.

The same "every accusation is an admission" applies to zionist jews.
E.g.
• Their enemies use civilians as human shields = in reality the IoF routinely used kidnapped palestinian kids to go into buildings and tunnels to see if they were booby-trapped.
• Their enemies place their command posts under hospitals = zionist occupiers have that in Tel Aviv.
• Military facilities in heavily-populated civilian areas = Tel Aviv has that also.
• Beheaded babies = photos of numerous Palestinian decapitated babies has emerged.
• Widespread use of rape = standard IoF practice; one encouraged by military rabbis.
• Teaching their children to hate from kindergarten = Zionist settlers have been doing that for decades, as we are now witnessing.
Endemic institutionalised anti-semitism = that’s what zionist jews worldwide have towards arabs who are a semitic people with a semitic language.
Etc., etc.

SUMMARY:
The observation is that narcissistic people accuse others of the very same wrongdoing and bad behaviour that they themselves are doing. What is also called ‘psychological projection’.
Viz. out of denial, a person projects their own inadequacies onto the one that their OWN bad behaviour or attitude is directed towards.

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FLAT-EARTH: COPERNICUS AND GALILEO versus THE ESTABLISHMENT
It was Copernicus and Galileo who were proven to be right and who had to battle against entrenched, unreasonable attitudes of the establishment and majority view.

It was Copernicus and Galileo who realised the reality by GOING AGAINST the consensus view and using scientific tests, evaluation and critical observation.

It was Galileo who was silenced, punished, imprisoned and forced to disown empirical reality to appease the religious sensibilities of irrational, ignorant ‘true-believers’.

It was those who published scientific research proving a helio-centric solar system whose books were outlawed and banned.

It was religious people who ostrich-like avoided scientific reality because it upset their religious beliefs in an unscientific, traditional belief-system based on anecdotal, eye-witness’ accounts that couldn’t be questioned of jews like Moses, Elijah, St.Paul, St. Luke, etc., and a world that had “four corners”.
Isaiah 11:12 — "And gather the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth."
Revelation 7:1 — "After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth."
Ezekiel 7:2 — "An end! The end has come upon the four corners of the land."
Psalms 74:17 — “You laid out the four corners of the earth, shaped the seasons of summer and winter”.
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It is actually HOLOCAUST TRUE-BELIEVERS who represent the new ‘FLAT EARTHERS’
Here at CODOH we have two people arguing the majority view is always right.
Yeah, sure. Which was pretty much the argument used against Galileo.

One of these two is a person calling himself a ‘confused jew’ who refuses to read science-based refutations of his traditional, consensus belief-system.

It is HOLOCAUST TRUE-BELIEVERS who PUNISH THOSE WHO REFUTE THEIR ‘FLAT-EARTH’ HOLYHOAX BELIEFS.
The great irony here is that it is those who are steadfast believers of the WW2 mass-gassing allegation (i.e. ‘the holocaust’) who punish and persecute anyone who exposes the falsity of their quasi-religious belief-system.
Ermmmm… pretty much exactly like the flat-earthers did to Galileo.
Arguing the earth is flat, when the evidence is clearly that it is round, is akin to arguing the Holocaust did not include the mass murder of millions of Jews, many in gas chambers, when the evidence is clear that happened.
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Re: Holocaust ‘mass-gassing’ believers = Flat-Earth Theory

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Nessie wrote: Sat Aug 16, 2025 2:19 pm Arguing the earth is flat, when the evidence is clearly that it is round, is akin to arguing the Holocaust did not include the mass murder of millions of Jews, many in gas chambers, when the evidence is clear that happened.
They'd have to prove that the millions of missing Jews went somewhere and be able to explain why they didn't show up in genetic ancestry tests. I got mine done and found a few distant cousins half way around the world but none that were surprise survivors.

There are a ton of gaping holes in their theories but that is by far the largest one.
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