Greg Gerdes - PROVES - the orthodox holocaust story is a lie

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Come on fellas, surely somebody can prove at least 1 mass grave in one of the camps.

Actually, some of the 100 "huge mass graves" have been proven to exist. These for instance:







With "evidence" like the above, who in their right mind could deny that the remains of 2,145,000 jews are buried the the 100 "huge mass graves"?

That's really all it takes? Wow, should be a cakewalk then.

Wonder why Greg still hasn't been fleeced for the whole pot.

How many people is that supposed to represent? 500, or 5,000?

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You wouldn't even have to dig at Chelmno, the dig team has the graves open now, unless I'm mistaken.

Do I personally think there are human remains in the alleged graves at Chelmno, I mean, yea, I do. I don't know how to quantify the amount of remains there, and I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find out the number of dead is 1/10th of what is alleged, but, I do think people are buried there.

That's not really the point though Bombsaway, I'm not Mr Gerdes.

You don't trust an American court to adjudicate this matter in favor of the holocaust? I'm surprised. Remember when the IHR got sued and lost? Of course, they won on appeal, but, that's not the point.

The holocaust absolutely demands my acceptance, not just of the event, but, of the event as alleged, and yet, every time it goes to court, it gets spanked. The one exception to that would be the time a legal team spent roughly 10,000,000 dollars to defeat one guy and defeated him not by supporting the holocaust, but by attacking his character and integrity.

I suppose that is better than breaking his jaw and some of his ribs, but, ultimately, I would think a court would favor the orthodoxy Bombsaway, at least initially.

What, you don't want $105,000 dollars from a holocaust denier to prove the holocaust? You got better things to do?

You know the holocaust as alleged happened, right, go strut your stuff buddy.

How would we determine that the number was not 1/10th right? I lose against Gerdes unless I can show the orthodox number is roughly corroborated right?

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You wouldn't even have to dig at Chelmno, the dig team has the graves open now, unless I'm mistaken.

Do I personally think there are human remains in the alleged graves at Chelmno, I mean, yea, I do. I don't know how to quantify the amount of remains there, and I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find out the number of dead is 1/10th of what is alleged, but, I do think people are buried there.

That's not really the point though Bombsaway, I'm not Mr Gerdes.

You don't trust an American court to adjudicate this matter in favor of the holocaust? I'm surprised. Remember when the IHR got sued and lost? Of course, they won on appeal, but, that's not the point.

The holocaust absolutely demands my acceptance, not just of the event, but, of the event as alleged, and yet, every time it goes to court, it gets spanked. The one exception to that would be the time a legal team spent roughly 10,000,000 dollars to defeat one guy and defeated him not by supporting the holocaust, but by attacking his character and integrity.

I suppose that is better than breaking his jaw and some of his ribs, but, ultimately, I would think a court would favor the orthodoxy Bombsaway, at least initially.

What, you don't want $105,000 dollars from a holocaust denier to prove the holocaust? You got better things to do?

You know the holocaust as alleged happened, right, go strut your stuff buddy.

How would we determine that the number was not 1/10th right? I lose against Gerdes unless I can show the orthodox number is roughly corroborated right?

Check the rules, the graves Keen just posted counted, so, those are off the list, you will have to pick another one. Reading the rules, he set the bar so low it looks like you should be able to walk over it.

Go get 'em tiger.

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You wouldn't even have to dig at Chelmno, the dig team has the graves open now, unless I'm mistaken.

Do I personally think there are human remains in the alleged graves at Chelmno, I mean, yea, I do. I don't know how to quantify the amount of remains there, and I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find out the number of dead is 1/10th of what is alleged, but, I do think people are buried there.

That's not really the point though Bombsaway, I'm not Mr Gerdes.

You don't trust an American court to adjudicate this matter in favor of the holocaust? I'm surprised. Remember when the IHR got sued and lost? Of course, they won on appeal, but, that's not the point.

The holocaust absolutely demands my acceptance, not just of the event, but, of the event as alleged, and yet, every time it goes to court, it gets spanked. The one exception to that would be the time a legal team spent roughly 10,000,000 dollars to defeat one guy and defeated him not by supporting the holocaust, but by attacking his character and integrity.

I suppose that is better than breaking his jaw and some of his ribs, but, ultimately, I would think a court would favor the orthodoxy Bombsaway, at least initially.

What, you don't want $105,000 dollars from a holocaust denier to prove the holocaust? You got better things to do?

You know the holocaust as alleged happened, right, go strut your stuff buddy.

How would we determine that the number was not 1/10th right? I lose against Gerdes unless I can show the orthodox number is roughly corroborated right?

Check the rules, the graves Keen just posted counted, so, those are off the list, you will have to pick another one. Reading the rules, he set the bar so low it looks like you should be able to walk over it.

Go get 'em tiger.

Ok so for Belzec, do you agree there are some remains in the graves? How do I prove they exceed the thresholds indicated by Gerdes?

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Oh he does mention Chelmno

A $1,000.00 bet - can be made for each one of the 100 fraudulently alleged / insinuated - mass graves / cremation pits - of Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II - wagering that you can conclusively prove that they have been scientifically proven to actually exist and to currently contain the remains of at least 21 people.

So how do you suggest I do this? Go dig up samples at Chelmno and have them DNA tested?

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Have 21 right top canines been found at Chelmno Bombsaway?

That'd be a way.

Shouldn't be hard to prove 21 bodies out of over 120,000.

Maybe he would accept them by weight, sift bone from ash and weigh it, if it weighs more than 21 sets of human remains, that's more than 21 people.

Given time I could probably formulate a half a dozen other ways.

You could, ask Greg though, he may actually help you out, who knows. Have you tried contacting him? Asking him for evidence he would accept? If we are being honest here, and I think we should, he doesn't seem unreasonable at all or to even be making a tall ask.

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Have 21 right top canines been found at Chelmno Bombsaway?

That'd be a way.

Shouldn't be hard to prove 21 bodies out of over 120,000.

Maybe he would accept them by weight, sift bone from ash and weigh it, if it weighs more than 21 sets of human remains, that's more than 21 people.

Given time I could probably formulate a half a dozen other ways.

You could, ask Greg though, he may actually help you out, who knows. Have you tried contacting him? Asking him for evidence he would accept? If we are being honest here, and I think we should, he doesn't seem unreasonable at all or to even be making a tall ask.

So you're suggesting I go there and conduct illegal digs? Would this convince you of anything btw?

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Have 21 right top canines been found at Chelmno Bombsaway?

That'd be a way.

Shouldn't be hard to prove 21 bodies out of over 120,000.

Maybe he would accept them by weight, sift bone from ash and weigh it, if it weighs more than 21 sets of human remains, that's more than 21 people.

Given time I could probably formulate a half a dozen other ways.

You could, ask Greg though, he may actually help you out, who knows. Have you tried contacting him? Asking him for evidence he would accept? If we are being honest here, and I think we should, he doesn't seem unreasonable at all or to even be making a tall ask.

So you're suggesting I go there and conduct illegal digs? Would this convince you of anything btw?

I was suggesting you see if 21 individual right canines have been catalogued and I also advised that weight may be acceptable.

Personally, I don't know if anyone has done a test like, take a cubic meter sample from the pit, separate the bone from other material and weighed it to estimate grave contents by volume. I don't know if anyone has weighed any remains out there at all. I was suggesting if weight of cremains in excess of 21 persons might be acceptable to Greg.

My personal bar? Why Bombsaway, this isn't about me. Simply seeing academia meet Greg's honestly low standards would be a start though. That would open the door.

He is only asking for proof of a handful of bodies.

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Have 21 right top canines been found at Chelmno Bombsaway?

That'd be a way.

Shouldn't be hard to prove 21 bodies out of over 120,000.

Maybe he would accept them by weight, sift bone from ash and weigh it, if it weighs more than 21 sets of human remains, that's more than 21 people.

Given time I could probably formulate a half a dozen other ways.

You could, ask Greg though, he may actually help you out, who knows. Have you tried contacting him? Asking him for evidence he would accept? If we are being honest here, and I think we should, he doesn't seem unreasonable at all or to even be making a tall ask.

So you're suggesting I go there and conduct illegal digs? Would this convince you of anything btw?

I was suggesting you see if 21 individual right canines have been catalogued and I also advised that weight may be acceptable.

Personally, I don't know if anyone has done a test like, take a cubic meter sample from the pit, separate the bone from other material and weighed it to estimate grave contents by volume. I don't know if anyone has weighed any remains out there at all. I was suggesting if weight of cremains in excess of 21 persons might he acceptable to Greg.

My personal bar? Why Bombsaway, this isn't about me. Simply seeing academia meet Greg's honestly low standards would be a start though. That would open the door.

He is only asking for proof of a handful of bodies.

Well the point is I cannot furnish the evidence he wants without flying to Poland and doing something illegal. From my perspective, Gerdes is suffering from a delusion (like a flat earther) and even if he did pay me for finding the 22 teeth from a single grave, I would feel bad for taking advantage of someone who is ignorant, not malicious in any way, and it also wouldn't move the debate for anyone.

On the other hand you guys see a chance to upend history. Unveiling the falseness of the Holocaust would be a world historical event I think, reveal the machinations of the Jews to anyone, revitalize white nationalism etc . There's much more incentive for revisionists to do things like this than myself. They've actually tried, with Krege. How did those studies go?

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How is calling the university to ask if 21 right canines have been catalogued illegal Bombsaway? And why does it involve going to Poland?

If you feel bad about it, ask the university to hash it out, or you can hash it out and give the money to the university as a donation.

You don't seem to want to confirm these graves for everyone Bombsaway, it looks like you are making excuses not to.

If the evidence is already out there, go collect your money, if it isn't, even in the honestly small amounts, that's a statement in and of itself.

Also, you ascribe a lot of motivation where it really doesn't exist. Ultimately, the largest driver is the quest for truth. If this event had had a focus of only Swedes, I would still think it was suspect and full of ridiculousness. jewish behavior around the event doesn't help, but, it's much less about their ethnicity than it is the lie.

With Krege, I still haven't seen his GPR data or is tree core samples looking for smoke. If I didn't know any better I'd think some special interest group slapped a muzzle on him.

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How is calling the university to ask if 21 right canines have been catalogued illegal Bombsaway? And why does it involve going to Poland?

If you feel bad about it, ask the university to hash it out, or you can hash it out and give the money to the university as a donation.

You don't seem to want to confirm these graves for everyone Bombsaway, it looks like you are making excuses not to.

If the evidence is already out there, go collect your money, if it isn't, even in the honestly small amounts, that's a statement in and of itself.

Also, you ascribe a lot of motivation where it really doesn't exist. Ultimately, the largest driver is the quest for truth. If this event had had a focus of only Swedes, I would still think it was suspect and full of ridiculousness. jewish behavior around the event doesn't help, but, it's much less about their ethnicity than it is the lie.

It hasn't been found, it would be a waste of time.

Maybe you missed this, but the incentives aren't there for me. On the other hand they are for you : Unveiling the falseness of the Holocaust would be a world historical event I think, reveal the machinations of the Jews to everyone, revitalize white nationalism etc

EDIT, may have been found idk, but I do know that for Kola's digs the samples were deposited back into the ground each time.

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Bombsaway, that's because to you, truth is subjective. Has to be.

Are you also a blank slate believer? And do you ascribe to collectivism?

There is a very specific line of teaching that style of philosophy comes from, and it is not one I adhere to.

Both truth and facts matter and they are not subjective as they exist outside the self.

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Bombsaway, that's because to you, truth is subjective. Has to be.

Are you also a blank slate believer? And do you ascribe to collectivism?

There is a very specific line of teaching that style of philosophy comes from, and it is not one I adhere to.

Both truth and facts matter and they are not subjective as they exist outside the self.

truth is subjective, I don't know what that means. I believe there is an 'objective reality' that can be ascertained to varying degrees of certainty.

Blank slate, nope

Collectivism, the practice or principle of giving a group priority over each individual in it, definitely not, though the Nazis did to a great extent.

Don't know what any of this has to do with the topic

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You sure have a devil may care attitude about truth for someone who seems to register that objective reality exists.

You are right, the queries were subject drift, but, I appreciate that you took the time to answer them. When I hear people treat truth in the way you did when you said it wasn't in your interest, I thought I smelled some red. Maybe you aren't a red. They actually took the blank slate idea so far that they thought they could evolve plants simply by changing their environment.

Back to task, if you care about the truth, you should want to prove it, whichever side of the fence you are on. You do come back here day to day, and we are on speaking terms, and that's a bit of one foot in front of the other, so, I suppose there is something to say for that. I'm honestly perplexed that you have no inclination to take up Greg on his challenge though, a bit of a head scratcher that.

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Back to task, if you care about the truth, you should want to prove it, whichever side of the fence you are on. You do come back here day to day, and we are on speaking terms, and that's a bit of one foot in front of the other, so, I suppose there is something to say for that. I'm honestly perplexed that you have no inclination to take up Greg on his challenge though, a bit of a head scratcher that.

Like prove it to myself?

I'm not incentivized to a fly to Poland conduct illegal digs at Chelmno, then maybe take money from someone who I believe to be a delusional but not immoral person, and not prove anything to anyone. Because 22 teeth doesn't prove hundreds of thousands of bodies.