Aktion 1005 Was Not To Destroy Remains?

[TlsMS93]

Since their inception, Jews have had a collective consciousness that is separatist from the rest of the world, some of which is clearly racist in nature, even before any form of anti-Semitism. Now, the Gentiles have endured millennia of Jewish interference in their affairs, which is admitted even by them in their own circles, but are we the ones who are obsessed with Jews?

[bombsaway]

+$1 in the ‘Bombsaway Is Not White’ jar

Since revisionists speculate so much about the underlying motives and psychology of the 'promoters' I think it's fair to point out the obsession you guys clearly have with Jews…

This seems to me to be akin to your denial of the significance that certain jews have with the ‘six million’ number.

Accurately pointing out that someone or some collective self-identifies as jewish can not fairly be designated a psychological “obsession”, Bombsaway.
Someone is either self-identifying that way or they are not. It’s a simple binary.

In contrast, believing, defending and promoting the ‘holocaust’ or ‘shoah’ narrative can definitely be fairly designated as a ‘jewish’ psychological obsession.
Do you agree?
If you do, I assume you will also accept that ascertaining whether someone is doing that BECAUSE of such an abstract self-identification is a fair question?

I haven't self identified, but that hasn't stopped people from speculating, because it is pathology. It hasn't stopped revisionists from 'slipping up' and ascribing things to Jews which they also ascribe to non-Jews (Archie won't defend his comment, it was a slip up)

I think you could say like yeah Jews are going to be resistant to the idea that they quite psychotically manufactured their own genocide, down to disturbing details like the Sonderkommando who willingly led their fellow Jews to their deaths.

So too anti semites are going to resistant to the idea that Jews have been more victimized than white people. Doesn't mean this is not a pathology.

[Wahrheitssucher]

Since revisionists speculate so much about the underlying motives and psychology of the 'promoters' I think it's fair to point out the obsession you guys clearly have with Jews…

This seems to me to be akin to your denial of the significance that certain jews apply to the ‘six million’ number.

Accurately pointing out that someone or some collective self-identifies as jewish can not fairly be designated a psychological “obsession”, Bombsaway.
Someone is either self-identifying that way or they are not. It’s a simple binary.

In contrast, believing, defending and promoting the ‘holocaust’ or ‘shoah’ narrative can definitely be fairly designated as a ‘jewish’ psychological obsession.
Do you agree?
If you do, I assume you will also accept that ascertaining whether someone is doing that BECAUSE of such an abstract self-identification is a fair question?

I haven't self identified, but that hasn't stopped people from speculating, because it is pathology.

That’s a non sequitur logical fallacy.

I think you could say like yeah Jews are going to be resistant to the idea that they quite psychotically manufactured their own genocide…

And that’s the begging-the-question fallacy.

…anti semites are going to [be] resistant to the idea that Jews have been more victimised than white people.

Sure. No disagreement with that. But so are people who have no prejudice against anyone because of their race, religion or abstract-tribal self-identifications. So that’s another non sequitur logically fallacious argument.

Strike three and out!

[HansHill]

Non-Whites pathologising White Racial consciousness doesn't surprise me, actually. In fact it would make perfect sense.

Now get back to your thread about Aktion 1005

[Stubble]

A key takeaway from this thread, as stated by Nessie in so many words, absence of evidence is not evidence. With that said, perhaps we can start to look at existing evidence.

Now, when you look at the Kola study, you find that the outdoor cremations were less than complete (leaving hair, soft tissue etc behind). When you look at photographs of German outdoor pyres like those at Dresden, you see that the fuel requirement was minimal, as obliteration of the remains was not the goal.

So, this leads to the question, what was the goal of these cremations?

[bombsaway]

Since their inception, Jews have had a collective consciousness that is separatist from the rest of the world, some of which is clearly racist in nature, even before any form of anti-Semitism. Now, the Gentiles have endured millennia of Jewish interference in their affairs, which is admitted even by them in their own circles, but are we the ones who are obsessed with Jews?

I mean yeah, when Alex Jones talks about the globalists, I understand that he genuinely believes this, has diagnosed some problem, but most people seem him as a crackpot. The classic conspiracy theorist gets obsessed with a certain group exercising terrible power over the world to the extent that they start seeing evidence of it everywhere, in their minds at least. I'm sure Jones would say the something exactly like this "admitted even by them in their own circles," Again, this is just how people view you guys. Crazy isn't the best way to put it, but there's something not quite right with you. This is the mainstream view.

Maybe ask yourself the question, is there anything truly terrible happening in your country that Jews haven't had been instrumental in? Who knows, maybe you're not one of Jim Goad's https://web.archive.org/web/20130508130 ... _jim_goad/

[Stubble]

Since their inception, Jews have had a collective consciousness that is separatist from the rest of the world, some of which is clearly racist in nature, even before any form of anti-Semitism. Now, the Gentiles have endured millennia of Jewish interference in their affairs, which is admitted even by them in their own circles, but are we the ones who are obsessed with Jews?

I mean yeah, when Alex Jones talks about the globalists, I understand that he genuinely believes this, has diagnosed some problem, but most people seem him as a crackpot. The classic conspiracy theorist gets obsessed with a certain group exercising terrible power over the world to the extent that they start seeing evidence of it everywhere, in their minds at least. I'm sure Jones would say the something exactly like this "admitted even by them in their own circles," Again, this is just how people view you guys. Crazy isn't the best way to put it, but there's something not quite right with you. This is the mainstream view.

Maybe ask yourself the question, is there anything truly terrible happening in your country that Jews haven't had been instrumental in? Who knows, maybe you're not one of Jim Goad's https://web.archive.org/web/20130508130 ... _jim_goad/

That's all fodder for another thread.

You think aktion 1005 was just about disarticulation of the remains to confound a tally? Seriously?

[bombsaway]

Since their inception, Jews have had a collective consciousness that is separatist from the rest of the world, some of which is clearly racist in nature, even before any form of anti-Semitism. Now, the Gentiles have endured millennia of Jewish interference in their affairs, which is admitted even by them in their own circles, but are we the ones who are obsessed with Jews?

I mean yeah, when Alex Jones talks about the globalists, I understand that he genuinely believes this, has diagnosed some problem, but most people seem him as a crackpot. The classic conspiracy theorist gets obsessed with a certain group exercising terrible power over the world to the extent that they start seeing evidence of it everywhere, in their minds at least. I'm sure Jones would say the something exactly like this "admitted even by them in their own circles," Again, this is just how people view you guys. Crazy isn't the best way to put it, but there's something not quite right with you. This is the mainstream view.

Maybe ask yourself the question, is there anything truly terrible happening in your country that Jews haven't had been instrumental in? Who knows, maybe you're not one of Jim Goad's https://web.archive.org/web/20130508130 ... _jim_goad/

That's all fodder for another thread.

You think aktion 1005 was just about disarticulation of the remains to confound a tally? Seriously?

They were destroying evidence of the crime as well. Graves full of bodies like that would show women and children, would show no bullet wounds so gas is the obvious cause there. They would also evidence, immediately an extremely high number, no counting necessary.

I don't even understand what your angle is with this, the historians lied, what?

[Stubble]

We are looking at the evidence, such as it is Bombsaway.

So, that's your position, right?

The open air cremations were to obfuscate the tally, and to disarticulate the remains. Muddling cause of death and age of the deceased?

[bombsaway]

We are looking at the evidence, such as it is Bombsaway.

So, that's your position, right?

The open air cremations were to obfuscate the tally, and to disarticulate the remains. Muddling cause of death and age of the deceased?

Yeah they didn't want it to be obvious killing people the exact way it was claimed.

I think obfuscating the tally was the main reason though, with the ashes disposed of in such a way that calculating the number burned would be impossible.

[TlsMS93]

Any other people in the world would have turned the soils of the Reinhardt fields, the fact that they haven't done it to this day is very revealing, don't you think?

Apparently Poland is a sovereign country, what would be the implication for them to do or not do this?

[Stubble]

Then why use the exact same disposal method at Dresden, Bombsaway?

Why do the same thing to German victims of allied bombing, if it was 'for the jews' and 'to cover up the crime'?

If it was to make it hard to identify victims, why do it to Germans?

I'm sorry, that doesn't make any fucking sense.

The measure was hygienic, not obfuscatory.

[bombsaway]

Then why use the exact same disposal method at Dresden, Bombsaway?

Why do the same thing to German victims of allied bombing, if it was 'for the jews' and 'to cover up the crime'?

If it was to make it hard to identify victims, why do it to Germans?

I'm sorry, that doesn't make any fucking sense.

The measure was hygienic, not obfuscatory.

Is there evidence that they destroyed the bodies there? Smashing the bones and such or using a ball mill? I think it's just a mass grave there. So the methods were different.

[Stubble]

Bombsaway, let's go look at Kola again. Let's winnow the truth from the lie, shall we?

Let's also look at contemporary accounts describing what was found at treblinka II.

A ball mill would get bound up in this mush we are left with after one of these pyres.

If a ball mill were used, we would find fragments only, not skulls and rotting flesh as described.

These incinerations were far from complete.

[bombsaway]

Most witnesses say the bones were crushed with mallets. Yawn.

https://www.911metallurgist.com/blog/sa ... animation/

I can see the pieces being destroyed gradually. You wouldn't have to run it till they were particles.

AI Overview
Ball Mills - 911Metallurgist
Yes, a ball mill can be used to grind materials to a small size without necessarily making them extremely fine. The size of the grinding media (balls) and the milling time are the key factors that determine the final particle size. By using larger balls and controlling the milling duration, a ball mill can produce particles that are smaller than the original but not necessarily pulverized into a fine powder.

Double yawn. Triple coming up.