Archaeological Evidence of Mass Graves at Treblinka II

[Nessie]

The round circles representing the graves in the grave area here;



Correspond with the yellow areas that are the G50-54 pits found in the 2011 survey here;



Bear in mind the orientations are different.

[Stubble]

The round circles representing the graves in the grave area here;



Correspond with the yellow areas that are the G50-54 pits found in the 2011 survey here;



Bear in mind the orientations are different.

My gosh Nessie! You are right!

Could that be the grave space available?

Guys, guys, I think we have solved it! The graves were at that spot, it corresponds to the witnesses and everything!

Eureka!

So, how many hectares of grave space are we talking Nessie? How much volume?

(This is the available space for burial...)

[TlsMS93]

So-called revisionists have rejected a Polish and British surveys and they will reject any and all, no matter the source, when they merely confirm what has already been found. This is why it is more accurate to call people deniers, as all they do is deny the evidence of mass graves. They produce zero evidence to prove there were no mass graves.

I believe in the Roman positive, black and white and not in circumstances, not in anecdotal testimonies, not in code words, in my legal system and in the culture in which I am inserted this does not satisfy, if it satisfies you that is your problem, I do not make extrapolations, Jews with their stories and traditions do this from their literature, the problem is wanting the rest of the world to swallow this, I will not contest whether biblical events were historical or not with Jews, now in a classroom it is different, with the Holocaust it is the same thing.

[Archie]

Roughly how much dry wood(kg) do you need to cremate a corpse, Nessie?

this question is a diversion from the archeological evidence, the point of the thread

the archeological evidence, based on the immediate post war survey, indicates mass burial and body destruction

most of the camp is now forested, so the GPR scans of the non-forested parts do not allow us to set a limit on maximum amount of grave space in the camp

this question is a diversion from the archeological evidence, the point of the thread

The mass graves rely on the cremation fairytale being true.
No cremations = No mass graves.

I’ll concede it’s a slight diversion off topic, this thread has become very repetitive.

It is a slight diversion but ultimately these are complementary topics.

They only want to talk about ash because this is a way for them sweep 95% of the problem under the rug. The big difficulty for them is the enormous initial body mass and jumping ahead to ash is their way of skipping over the hard part. The issue of the initial burial space (of WHOLE bodies) and the issue of cremation both highlight the same underlying problem which is what happened to the 40,000,000 kg of so of human tissue.

Actual, confirmed mass graves in the real world tend to have relatively pedestrian burial densities, usually not even 5 bodies per cubic meter. They are unable to cite a single confirmed example of a grave, even a small one, that has a density approaching their absurd 20 or 30 bodies per cubic metric. The claim there were ever 1.5M bodies buried at the AR camps is already looking extremely doubtful on this point alone. But when you add to this the additional difficulty of cremating such a mass of bodies in open air this gives us additional certainty that the story is totally absurd.

At Treblinka, they would have had to have burned around 6,400 bodies per day for months. We can debate exactly how much wood such an operation might require (there are a range of possible assumptions), but even in dedicated cremation ovens the Germans were using around 30 kg of fuel per corpse. Taking that as a rough minimum, we are looking at something like 200 metric tons of wood per day (for months) as a very conservative figure. If they couldn't burn all those bodies, then they were never there to begin with. They generally assume that every last inch of disturbed soil was absolutely packed with bodies. The cremation angle is further reason to reject this claim.