Matrix - an allegory of our world?

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Matrix - an allegory of our world?

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The Matrix (1999) - an allegory of our world?

If you remember the famous film by the Wachowski sisters, you get the impression that it was a reflection of our reality, which has been imposed on us for over 80 years.

In this film, most people live in the "Matrix" - a computer simulation created by machines, which is designed to depict a world similar to our own.

99% of the population is in a coma, in the "fields", connected to the matrix and used as batteries.

The few people who have realized what is happening are trying to leave the simulation, and these are sought by representatives of the resistance, led by Morpheus. Inside this world, he is a "dangerous terrorist", but in reality, quite the opposite.

The remnants of the survivors live deep underground, in a city called Zion, and they are hunted by machines, high-tech de facto intelligent beings that destroy people.

It seems to me that this is a very relevant allegory of our world. The Matrix is ​​an image created by Western media, politicians, historians, writers and public figures, which most people believe in as the real world. In it, Hitler is a bloody dictator who killed tens of millions of people, the enslavement of the peoples of Europe is "democracy", voluntary love is a "crime", and the mass murder of innocent people is "self-defense".

This "Matrix" is controlled, of course, not by robots, but by the Zionist elites who stand behind the government of most countries in this unjust world. A significant part of the population is connected to it, only not through capsules and tubes entering the head, but through the Internet, television and news.

Despite the fact that the city of survivors is called Zion, its fate is more reminiscent of the inhabitants of Palestine or Ukraine, who found themselves trapped and in a state of endless war with a technologically superior enemy.

The enlightened are revisionists who have had a vague suspicion all their lives that something is wrong with this world, and suddenly realized what it is. Escaping the matrix is ​​escaping illusions.

And the red or blue pill is a choice between historical and political truth and the generally accepted correct narrative.

Morpheus is the personification of the leaders of countries who have led the resistance to such global, widespread injustice.

The question arises: who is the Chosen One? Will he appear to confront (((machines))) and the system on equal terms?
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There are two answers - the Religious answer that The Chosen One will be Christ, and a secular answer. The former obviously is not very satisfactory for a discussion like this, so lets focus on the latter.

The Chosen One as you say, will be required to hold such a skillset that seems almost impossible by today's standards. He will need to be a statesman in the vein of old, by which I mean a Frederick The Great or a Bismarck. We don't seem to have great statesmen anymore. Even within one generation, the drop off in quality from Rumsfeld to Hegseth is shocking, as just one prominent example.

The Chosen One will need to have the utmost mastery of digital media, elevating the importance of propaganda from the levels of understanding of Goebels & co into the stratosphere. He will, in effect, need to be a 1-man-PR-show. Debating skills, relentless perseverance, ability to shape public opninion and mobilise a movement.

There are many other qualities needed like rhetoric, oration, high IQ, even good looks. The lack of any one of these characteristics can be compensated by exceptional (even by his standards) performance in other areas.

In brief - a polymath. A polymath the likes of which have been very rare in history. A Frederick the Great meets Bismarck meets John F. Kennedy meets Steve Jobs meets Ghandi meets Henry Ford meets PT Barnum meets Benjamin Franklin etc etc etc.

If this feels too unrealistic, then I have made my point well ;) a nascent movement like Revisionism (or rather in a broader context, White Identity Politics, or White Nationalism) meets its death when it sits around waiting for a perfect leader to appear and do everything. Rather my view, is that the work of "minor" figures and us peasants alike, is to create a fertile environment where these ideas are not immediately poisoned, and have capacity to grow and evolve. The best arguments needs to be put out there, become visible, and defended honestly and rigorously. Cucking out to "false prophets" and grifters we see emerging all the time on the dissident Right Wing (Donald Trump? Nick Fuentes? Tucker Carlson?) should be cautioned at all avenues.
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In your allegory, neo is 'everyman' I would assume.

Otherwise this hyperbole falls flat, as there is no 'savior'.
No one is coming to save you, expect to self rescue
Comes to mind.

'The Joy of Satan' organization (left hand path 'occultists') have a video called 'Exit the Jewtrix' where 'Cobra Commander' teaches the world about 'spiritual warfare' against the jew and 'metaphysics'. I say this unironically, as this is an actual video that was actually made by actual people who I assume actually believe it. Anyhow, they actually, really, legitimately think we are in the 'jew matrix'. They have an entire pseudoreligious structure based on a Hollywood film from the late 90's. Talk about niche.

I watched the whole thing and ate icecream. It wasn't nazi alien lizard reptiles at the center of the earth good, but, it was ludicrous to the point of being enthralling. I think the people that wrote it watched 'what the bleep do we know' taking bong rips and one of them said, dude dude dude dude, what if, hear me out, what if, it's all the jews, I mean, like, the whole thing, what if, the jews like, literally made the world we live in man, and they are like, interdimensionally harvesting our essence like in the dark crystal, but, its really the matrix.... and the rest of them just, rolled with it.

Just to prove I'm not making this up, here, is, this masterpiece;



(Personally, I still think Plato nailed it with 'The Cave').

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HansHill wrote: Fri Jun 27, 2025 12:26 pm There are two answers - the Religious answer that The Chosen One will be Christ, and a secular answer. The former obviously is not very satisfactory for a discussion like this, so lets focus on the latter.

The Chosen One as you say, will be required to hold such a skillset that seems almost impossible by today's standards. He will need to be a statesman in the vein of old, by which I mean a Frederick The Great or a Bismarck. We don't seem to have great statesmen anymore. Even within one generation, the drop off in quality from Rumsfeld to Hegseth is shocking, as just one prominent example.

The Chosen One will need to have the utmost mastery of digital media, elevating the importance of propaganda from the levels of understanding of Goebels & co into the stratosphere. He will, in effect, need to be a 1-man-PR-show. Debating skills, relentless perseverance, ability to shape public opninion and mobilise a movement.

There are many other qualities needed like rhetoric, oration, high IQ, even good looks. The lack of any one of these characteristics can be compensated by exceptional (even by his standards) performance in other areas.

In brief - a polymath. A polymath the likes of which have been very rare in history. A Frederick the Great meets Bismarck meets John F. Kennedy meets Steve Jobs meets Ghandi meets Henry Ford meets PT Barnum meets Benjamin Franklin etc etc etc.

If this feels too unrealistic, then I have made my point well ;) a nascent movement like Revisionism (or rather in a broader context, White Identity Politics, or White Nationalism) meets its death when it sits around waiting for a perfect leader to appear and do everything. Rather my view, is that the work of "minor" figures and us peasants alike, is to create a fertile environment where these ideas are not immediately poisoned, and have capacity to grow and evolve. The best arguments needs to be put out there, become visible, and defended honestly and rigorously. Cucking out to "false prophets" and grifters we see emerging all the time on the dissident Right Wing (Donald Trump? Nick Fuentes? Tucker Carlson?) should be cautioned at all avenues.
In the end, all free people in the world will fight, even without the Chosen One. As they did for almost 100 years in the film (meaning the interpretation of Part 1, without those plot twists in reloaded, the original machine uprising, the revelations from the Architect, etc.). The revisionists themselves, since the emergence of organized dissidence in historical views in the 70s, have fought to a large extent as "ordinary people", and in fact were them. Jurgen Graf felt for decades how unfair this so-called "rules-based order" was to the German people and Germany, but was too afraid to touch the subject of the Holocaust and Zionism, continuing to believe in them until he met Arthur Vogt in 1991 (I read this in his book "Der Geplante Volkstod"). Arthur Butz also believed in the "Holocaust" until 1972, as did Faurisson before he began his research, and so on;

So the expected future is the continuation of historical dissidence, opposition to the views imposed on us, the final collapse of the Yalta-Postdam "rules-based world order" with its systemic injustice, until one of two things happens:

1. A "polymath" will appear, and most likely from complete obscurity, just as Adolf once rose to the top of power due to his charisma and political insight. Revisionists in this case will most likely take his side, or will be seen as his own inspirers. Then the collapse of the world order will be faster;

2. The amount of facts and social changes will lead to a breakdown of the consensus - the "Holocaust mania" that has engulfed the world will eventually end, and the new historical orthodoxy will be the former revisionism: that the Holocaust was a process of deportation of Jews, that WWII was fueled by the Zionist-controlled governments of the Western plutocracies and the Soviet communists, that Germany and Japan sought peace, but on the condition of genuine independence, which was taken from them in the course of an extremely cruel and fraudulent game - destroying entire cities and regions (Hamburg 1943, Koenigsberg 1944, Dresden, Tokyo 1945) and sometimes even using nuclear weapons (Hiroshima and Nagasaki), and then creating a state in the Middle East, based on decades of this propaganda lie, and also depriving its own citizens of their rights for what they were born as (I mean in the US, UK, Europe)

Well, either a combination of one of the two. Of course, I'm not talking about extreme cases, if someone presses the red button, all this will be gone, as will humanity.

Not long ago, I talked to an American, and he mentioned that the story about Germany and WWII has become very popular in America. Although I'm not sure if he meant the rise in popularity of revisionism/pro-Germanism, or just interest in that period.
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Stubble wrote: Sat Jun 28, 2025 12:41 am In your allegory, neo is 'everyman' I would assume.

Otherwise this hyperbole falls flat, as there is no 'savior'.
No one is coming to save you, expect to self rescue
Comes to mind.
This doesn't mean that you should sit back and wait for the One to come. It just means that sooner or later such a person will appear. Neo wasn't even the chosen one for most of the movie, until the scene in the hallway where he was able to defeat the Agents. So if such a person even exists now, he probably doesn't suspect future events, his own significance. In a sense, he really is an "everyman".
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Stubble wrote: Sat Jun 28, 2025 12:41 am 'The Joy of Satan' organization (left hand path 'occultists') have a video called 'Exit the Jewtrix' where 'Cobra Commander' teaches the world about 'spiritual warfare' against the jew and 'metaphysics'. I say this unironically, as this is an actual video that was actually made by actual people who I assume actually believe it. Anyhow, they actually, really, legitimately think we are in the 'jew matrix'. They have an entire pseudoreligious structure based on a Hollywood film from the late 90's. Talk about niche.

I watched the whole thing and ate icecream. It wasn't nazi alien lizard reptiles at the center of the earth good, but, it was ludicrous to the point of being enthralling. I think the people that wrote it watched 'what the bleep do we know' taking bong rips and one of them said, dude dude dude dude, what if, hear me out, what if, it's all the jews, I mean, like, the whole thing, what if, the jews like, literally made the world we live in man, and they are like, interdimensionally harvesting our essence like in the dark crystal, but, its really the matrix.... and the rest of them just, rolled with it.

Just to prove I'm not making this up, here, is, this masterpiece;



(Personally, I still think Plato nailed it with 'The Cave').

Funny video, although in reality they are not that far from the truth. After all, millions, if not hundreds of millions of people around the world still believe in these artificial narratives (not only about the Holocaust), due to which the world order still holds together. So, indeed, some "Jewtrix" exists.

Plato's thought experiment in a sense gave birth to a thousand-year-old theory of simulation, although in the Matrix it is more of an allegory, there are indeed assumptions that our world is a virtual reality.

Philosopher Nick Bostrom has suggested that the world is a simulation and has even written books on the subject.

For example, I assume this in connection with NATO exercises and the nuclear panic of 1983 - what if a nuclear war happened then? That is, like "Threads" and "The Day After" are documentaries. Is our world already destroyed?

A number of historians have now come to the conclusion that 83 was much closer to the End than the Cuban Missile Crisis. And the potential of nuclear weapons was much more dangerous. Of course, this sounds like a solipsistic conspiracy theory, but I tried to ask people about it, and some remembered individual details related to the November 1983 crisis, although they could not believe that WWIII actually happened then.
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You are an interesting character. Tell you what, I'm going to go ahead and see if I can get my plausibility structure to bend this way and explore this for a while. I'll be back.

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Stubble wrote: Sun Jul 06, 2025 6:30 pm You are an interesting character. Tell you what, I'm going to go ahead and see if I can get my plausibility structure to bend this way and explore this for a while. I'll be back.

Moving the mind is not easy and it takes time. Neuroplasticity makes thoughts fall like syrup, not like water.
The thing is, I'm not sure how exactly it could have worked. As far as I know, the technology of the 1980s didn't allow for anything approaching virtual reality. And even today, it's hard to immerse people in a Matrix-like simulation.

So I'm guessing a collective denial of the tragedy, caused by a mixture of shock and psychological stress. Just as the human brain releases various psychoactive substances in the last minutes that cause hallucinations (hence the "light at the end of the tunnel"), after a nuclear strike, hundreds of millions of people could have entered a kind of collective hallucination before their death. In it, November 4, 1983 was an ordinary day, and history continued after that, Andropov was replaced by Gorbachev, and perestroika ended the Cold War. This complacency and de-escalation after 1983 is the result of millions of people's brains trying to deceive themselves.

Now we are gradually approaching the moment of "awakening" (i.e. "the end"). As this process continues, events in the world are increasingly reminiscent of the period before a nuclear war. On one side, the president is a former actor and businessman, on the other - a former KGB (FSB) officer. The Russians fought for years in a neighboring country, helped by the Americans. Israel in 1983 waged war in Lebanon and bombed Arab countries - hence the "surprise" attack on Iran. Little is known about India and Pakistan, but they also clashed with each other. The AIDS epidemic that began in 1981 - COVID 2020. Satanic panic of the 80s and fear of "dangerous strangers" - panic about "predators" and "groomers" of the 20s. In general, a right turn in Western policy. Everything fits together. All that remains is to wait for NATO and Russia's exercises, and the global war itself (which already happened 42 years ago);

Either the technology in the real 80s allowed for a simulation, and it is slowly but surely failing, and governments of different countries are losing control - or the neuropsychological theory is correct - then most people are still lying under the rubble, burned and irradiated, and hallucinating about the "normal world" in their dying brains, and the war in reality was a few minutes or hours ago.

There is also such a strange condition as "Cotard's Syndrome" - when a person is convinced that he died a long time ago, or the world is destroyed, or nothing exists. One person on Reddit mentioned that he had a "patient" who believed that the world was destroyed in the 80s due to some global nuclear catastrophe. In the USSR, punitive psychiatry was used against anti-communists. Now anyone who doubts reality can be called crazy.

Here is my guess about how the war of 1983 was possible without any evidence of it in history.

I would also be glad if you, or anyone else who remembers November 4, 1983, would get in touch, or try to remember/describe your feelings and experiences on that day.
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