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TlsMS93 wrote: Fri Jul 04, 2025 11:40 am
Nessie wrote: Fri Jul 04, 2025 7:04 am
Do you not think that presenting evidence of an order to shoot Jews, contradicts your claim that the Nazis were resettling Jews in the east and leaving them to their own devices?
Dude, how weak you are, if certain Jews were being executed for aiding in the partisan war, which is the same as saying that Jews living normally like the local Soviet population were not killed, why would the deported Jews be executed there? Today the Jews want to deport Palestinians to their neighboring countries even if it is by force, is that genocide? For the definitions perhaps, after all it is not necessary to kill every last one, the intention is enough.
The Einsatzgruppen OSRs, 1941-2, listed Jews separately from partisans. Jewish men, women and children were shot. They reported areas as being Jew free. Wannsee in January 1942, recorded Estonia as Jew free. Lativans and Lithuanians joined with the EG, shooting Jews. Ukrainians joined the SS and some worked at the AR camps. Himmler sent a report to Hitler stating that over a 1/3 of a million Jews had been executed in just 4 months in 1942 in Russia, Ukraine and the northeast.

You then suggest Korherr's report in 1943, was about resettling Jews in the east, where the policy in 1941-2, had clearly been to make the east Jew free. Even Korherr stated he was told that resettlement was around Lublin, in Poland, not further east, into Ukraine or the Baltic States. But, you do not bother to look for evidence of millions of Jews resettled around Lublin, since even you know that did not happen.
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Nessie wrote: Fri Jul 04, 2025 12:13 pm But, you do not bother to look for evidence of millions of Jews resettled around Lublin, since even you know that did not happen.
Location of Lublin surrounded by Jewish Labour camps 1942
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Nazgul wrote: Sun Jul 06, 2025 12:09 pm
Nessie wrote: Fri Jul 04, 2025 12:13 pm But, you do not bother to look for evidence of millions of Jews resettled around Lublin, since even you know that did not happen.
Location of Lublin surrounded by Jewish Labour camps 1942
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You love to post images of maps with dots on them. You then fail to show what the Jewish population of each camp, represented by a dot, was in 1942, or indeed any other year.
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Nessie wrote: Sun Jul 06, 2025 12:13 pm You love to post images of maps with dots on them. You then fail to show what the Jewish population of each camp, represented by a dot, was in 1942, or indeed any other year.
If you bothered to read testimonies of Jews sent to these camps, they were in constant flux. Some Jews went to 17 camps. Most of the information regarding camps for Jews has mysteriously disappeared, but enough remains to form an image of the reality, not your one.
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Nazgul wrote: Sun Jul 06, 2025 12:22 pm
Nessie wrote: Sun Jul 06, 2025 12:13 pm You love to post images of maps with dots on them. You then fail to show what the Jewish population of each camp, represented by a dot, was in 1942, or indeed any other year.
If you bothered to read testimonies of Jews sent to these camps, they were in constant flux. Some Jews went to 17 camps. Most of the information regarding camps for Jews has mysteriously disappeared, but enough remains to form an image of the reality, not your one.
You do not want to list Jewish populations, of camps and ghettos, 1942-4, because you know it will be a declining population.
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Nessie wrote: Fri Jul 04, 2025 12:13 pm
The Einsatzgruppen OSRs, 1941-2, listed Jews separately from partisans. Jewish men, women and children were shot. They reported areas as being Jew free. Wannsee in January 1942, recorded Estonia as Jew free. Lativans and Lithuanians joined with the EG, shooting Jews. Ukrainians joined the SS and some worked at the AR camps. Himmler sent a report to Hitler stating that over a 1/3 of a million Jews had been executed in just 4 months in 1942 in Russia, Ukraine and the northeast.

You then suggest Korherr's report in 1943, was about resettling Jews in the east, where the policy in 1941-2, had clearly been to make the east Jew free. Even Korherr stated he was told that resettlement was around Lublin, in Poland, not further east, into Ukraine or the Baltic States. But, you do not bother to look for evidence of millions of Jews resettled around Lublin, since even you know that did not happen.
What entire areas of the USSR were declared free of Jews? You don't even believe that any country was actually free of them. What is written in documents does not always correspond to the reality of the facts. Himmler's document to Hitler recording more than 300,000 executed Jews is an example of this. Himmler's signature is not on this document and where it is, it is in a strange form that any forger could imitate. In other words, the same structural problems as other documents such as the Wannsee copies. How strange. There is an uncoded document with brutal words about 300,000 executed Jews but they need to create coded words like "special treatment" and "transferred to the East"?
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TlsMS93 wrote: Sun Jul 06, 2025 7:24 pm
Nessie wrote: Fri Jul 04, 2025 12:13 pm
The Einsatzgruppen OSRs, 1941-2, listed Jews separately from partisans. Jewish men, women and children were shot. They reported areas as being Jew free. Wannsee in January 1942, recorded Estonia as Jew free. Lativans and Lithuanians joined with the EG, shooting Jews. Ukrainians joined the SS and some worked at the AR camps. Himmler sent a report to Hitler stating that over a 1/3 of a million Jews had been executed in just 4 months in 1942 in Russia, Ukraine and the northeast.

You then suggest Korherr's report in 1943, was about resettling Jews in the east, where the policy in 1941-2, had clearly been to make the east Jew free. Even Korherr stated he was told that resettlement was around Lublin, in Poland, not further east, into Ukraine or the Baltic States. But, you do not bother to look for evidence of millions of Jews resettled around Lublin, since even you know that did not happen.
What entire areas of the USSR were declared free of Jews?
List of all areas here;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judenfrei
You don't even believe that any country was actually free of them.
No, in most cases, some would have successfully hidden.
What is written in documents does not always correspond to the reality of the facts. Himmler's document to Hitler recording more than 300,000 executed Jews is an example of this. Himmler's signature is not on this document and where it is, it is in a strange form that any forger could imitate. In other words, the same structural problems as other documents such as the Wannsee copies. How strange. There is an uncoded document with brutal words about 300,000 executed Jews but they need to create coded words like "special treatment" and "transferred to the East"?
It is consistent that EG reports from the east, at the start of the mass killings, which received a lot of local support, were quite open about shooting or executing people, not just Jews. Actions T4, 14f13 and AR were all more circumspect about their use of words.
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Nazgul wrote: Sun Jul 06, 2025 12:22 pm
Nessie wrote: Sun Jul 06, 2025 12:13 pm You love to post images of maps with dots on them. You then fail to show what the Jewish population of each camp, represented by a dot, was in 1942, or indeed any other year.
If you bothered to read testimonies of Jews sent to these camps, they were in constant flux. Some Jews went to 17 camps. Most of the information regarding camps for Jews has mysteriously disappeared, but enough remains to form an image of the reality, not your one.
What is less known is the exact population of each camp. What is known is that a large portion of them remained open until war's end, and that some were opening as late as mid-1944.
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Seriously? Some German, French and one Polish cities, most of them before any decision to exterminate according to Orthodoxy was given? You are laughable. As for the eastern territories where the bulk of the Jewish population would be, only a small Baltic country was declared judenfrei, which does not even correspond to reality.

Hidden? There was an active Jewish community in the sector where it was claimed that the Einsatzgruppen had cleared Jews, as in Manstein's sector, so this proves absolutely nothing.
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