I’m not sure how much that last idea is accurate.
Anyone here have views or info on that?
E.g. Jacob Henry Schiff a prominent Jewish financier on Wall Street of German origin, gave huge financial support to the communist revolutionaries. but this is explained away as only being because he was waging a personal vendetta against Tsarist Russia due to belief it was permitting ‘progroms’.
But apparently Schiff's stance changed once the Bolsheviks' seized power:Schiff was a German-born American banker and businessman. He helped finance the the Japanese military efforts against Tsarist Russia in the Russo-Japanese War.
Born in Frankfurt, Germany, Schiff migrated to the United States after the American Civil War and joined the firm Kuhn, Loeb & Co. From his base on Wall Street, he was the foremost Jewish leader from 1880 to 1920 in what later became known as the "Schiff era", grappling with all major Jewish issues and problems of the day, including the plight of Russian Jews, American and international antisemitism and the rise of Zionism.
… Journalist George Kennan noted that Schiff helped finance revolutionary propaganda during the Russo-Japanese War and Revolution of 1905, through the Society of Friends of Russian Freedom. The Jewish Communal Register of New York City stated that, "Mr. Schiff has always used his wealth and his influence in the best interests of his [jewish] people. He financed the enemies of autocratic Russia [the communist revolutionaries] and used his financial influence to keep Tsarist Russia from the money markets of the United States".
National loans
What is perhaps Schiff's most famous financial action took place during the Russo-Japanese War (1904–1905). Schiff met with Takahashi Korekiyo, deputy governor of the Bank of Japan, in Paris in April 1904. Schiff agreed to extend loans to the Empire of Japan in the amount of $200 million (equivalent to $5.3 billion in 2023), through Kuhn, Loeb & Co. These loans were the first major flotation of Japanese bonds on Wall Street, and provided approximately half the funds needed for Japan's war effort.
… It is quite likely Schiff also saw this loan as a means of answering, on behalf of the Jewish people for the antisemitic actions of the Russian Empire, specifically the recent Kishinev pogrom in 1903. This loan attracted worldwide attention, and had major consequences…
Schiff forbade any of the funds from his loans from going to the Russian Empire, during the reign of the Tsars. When the Tsar was overthrown in 1917, Schiff repealed the impediments within his firm against lending to Russia.
~ Wikipedia
That last fact is intriguing. Despite being himself a German jew who had emigrated to America (so would have had friends and family still living in Germany) in 1917 he wanted Russia to “continue the fight against Germany”.…in March 1917 Alexander Kerensky, representing the new provisional government, had declared Jews to be equal citizens. In addition to repeated public statements of support, Schiff used both his personal wealth and the resources of Kuhn Loeb to float large loans to Kerensky's regime. But when Lenin and Trotsky seized power for themselves in November 1917, Schiff immediately rejected them, cut off further loans, started funding anti-Bolshevist groups, and even demanded that the Bolsheviks pay back some of the money he'd loaned Kerensky.
Schiff also joined a British-backed effort to appeal to fellow Jews in Russia to continue the fight against Germany.
~ Wikipedia
Jacob Schiff standing far right.
Another recurring idea connected to the above, is that both these communist jews and their capitalist jewish supporters wanted a world-wide ‘new order’ ruled by communism’s jewish leaders.
Here is an article by Karl Radl on the origins of both ‘zionism’ and ‘communism’
Did you know that Communism and Zionism originally come from the same man?
You’ve probably not heard the name of the nineteenth century Jewish intellectual Moses Hess but biographers of Karl Marx – the Jewish founder of Communism along with his German friend Friedrich Engels – and historians of Zionism are not only familiar with his name but also often offer gushing praise of him.
After all what else could you say for a man who more or less single-handedly created two major intellectual movements that have dominated the twentieth century?
Moses Hess was a close friend of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels at the University of Berlin, and it has long been admitted that his ideas – especially his economic ideas – are the basis for Marx’s ideas as explained in his famous 1848 pamphlet ‘The Communist Manifesto’ which is based on Hess’ 1846 pamphlet ‘The Communist Confession Faith’.
Indeed, it was Moses Hess who converted Marx to the idea of Communism!
Moses Hess however was also a Jewish nationalist and wrote a book called ‘Rome and Jerusalem: A Study in Jewish Nationalism’ in 1862 which served as the basis for Theodor Herzl’s own 1896 book and manifesto of Zionism ‘Der Judenstaat’.
In ‘Rome and Jerusalem’ Moses Hess argued for the forcible creation of a Jewish state (in what was then Palestine and ruled by the Ottoman Empire) based on a racial categorisation. We must remember that Judaism is not a confession-based religion as is often claimed today but rather an ancestry-based religion … [if in doubt please look up the concept of ‘Noahides’ and ask yourself why a ‘confession-based religion’ would require such a category]. Moses Hess envisioned that this state would adhere to both a Communist economic system and be a racial state in which only jews could be citizens.
He also argued that because of its geographic position and trade/financial links – meaning links to other Jews in positions of influence – to the West (Europe and North America) and to the East (China and India) that this Jewish state would become one of the richest and possibly the most pre-eminent superpower in the world as it would control international trade.
Moses Hess’ two ideas – Communism and Zionism – quickly caught on amongst the Jews but also among many non-Jews with large scale movements devoted to one or sometimes both – for example the Poale Zion in Poland and Russia – coming into existence by the turn of the twentieth century.
Communist movements around the world were often led by Jews – such as for example the Socialist Party of Germany (out of which the Communist Party of Germany later emerged) was led by Eduard Bernstein from the 1880s to 1920s. The Communist Party of Germany was led by Rosa Luxembourg, Leo Jogiches and Paul Levi [all born to wealthy Jewish families]) – while the Zionist movement was supported by well-meaning Christians such as Lord Arthur Balfour; who wrote the famous ‘Balfour Declaration’ of 1917 that is the basis for the modern Israeli State.
Originally Christian Zionists - like Balfour and Winston Churchill - wanted to use a projected Jewish state in Palestine as a tool of British foreign policy and also as a way to deal with the large numbers of Jews who had arrived in England (as well as America, France and Germany) from the Russian Empire due the Russian Tsars taking a dim view of the heavy Jewish involvement in radical and revolutionary terrorist groups that managed to murder Tsar Alexander I in 1881.
These Jews had immediately begun making such a social, economic and political nuisance of themselves – such as promoting Communism in the West - that some way to get rid of them had to be found lest a popular anti-Jewish revolution occur and with which such a policy Jewish supporters of Hess’ and Herzl’s creation of Zionism such as the famous Rothschild and Warburg banking families agreed lest the behaviour of these less-assimilated Jews cause the non-Jewish populations to become resistive.
Around the same time an American clergyman named Cyrus Scofield produced a new version of the Bible called the ‘Scofield Reference Bible’ designed to promote a very niche version of Christian theology by deliberately mistranslating and creating interpreting – via long footnotes – the text of the Old and New Testaments to support Scofield’s idea – derived from the obscure Plymouth Brethern cleric John Nelson Darby – that if all Jews could be forced – or induced - to immigrate to what was then Palestine then it would trigger the Second Coming of Jesus.
Scofield’s Bible was never that popular – it was atrociously bad Biblical scholarship as many theologians and Biblical scholars of Scofield’s time pointed out - till it was seized upon by the Christian Zionist movement in the 1920s and 1930s as a way to attract and justify Christian support for creating and supporting a Jewish state in Palestine which we now call Israel.
Scofield’s Bible has continued to be the basis of Christian support for Israel and is fundamentally why many otherwise well-meaning Christians continue to promote an ‘Israel First’ not an ‘America First’ point of view with Israel being by far the top destination for US foreign aid with $310 billion of American taxpayer’s money currently spent and numerous other sources of disguised revenue for Israel such as the United States-Israel Free Trade Agreement of 1985 – the US’ first ever free trade agreement – which drained $12.5 billion from the US economy in 2016 and $9.5 billion from it in 2017 (these being the latest published numbers).
Just as Moses Hess envisioned in his 1862 book ‘Rome and Jerusalem’!
Indeed, while Jewish Zionists and their Christian allies were busy trying to achieve a Jewish state in the then Ottoman province of Palestine; Jewish followers of Communism (Hess’ other creation) were spearheading similar Jewish homeland projects after the Bolshevik Revolution of late 1917. Bolshevism was so dominated by Jews that it was actually the subject of widespread Jewish jokes at the time and continued to right up until after the death of Joseph Stalin. One prominent historian of Stalinism noted with alarm that Stalin’s closest confidents during the 1930s were circa 80-85% Jewish based upon their uniquely Jewish surnames alone. Other Jewish homeland projects include the creation of the Jewish Autonomous Oblast in Russia in 1924 and other similar proposals for additional Jewish states being proposed by prominent Soviet Jewish officials in the form of Crimea (twice) and Latvia, with the non-Jewish residents being expelled and Jews allowed to create state of their own there.
There was rising non-Jewish discontent against Jews in the Soviet Union following Jewish Soviet officials being responsible for multiple genocides targeting non-Jews and resulting in millions of deaths – for example the Kazakh Famine of 1930-1933 supervised by the Jewish Bolshevik Filipp Goloshchyokin which killed circa 2 million Kazakhs; and the Holodomor of 1932-1933 in the Ukraine supervised by the Jewish Bolshevik Lazar Kaganovich which killed 3.5-5 million Ukrainians. Therefore Stalin began to sacrifice some of the Jewish officials such as Ana Pauker in Romania, Rudolf Slansky in Czechoslovakia and Matyas Rakosi in Hungary in order to pacify the populace of the Soviet Union and its newly conquered countries.
This resulted in the destruction of the Soviet Zionist-Communist consensus that had been built up by Stalin’s Soviet Union during the 1920s to the late 1940s. It also led to $180 billion being spent by Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s administration in supporting the Soviet Union against Germany and the Axis powers in the Second World War with the Soviet Union only repaying $722 million and having the rest of the debt written off by the Nixon administration in 1971. Many of Roosevelt’s administration’s senior figures had been Jewish and had been supportive of the Soviet Union, such as his Secretary of the Treasury Henry Morgenthau Jr.
The Soviet Union repaid this debt to Jews by immediately recognizing the state of Israel in 1948. They’d already been helping arm the Jewish terrorist groups of pre-Israel Palestine – such as providing them with large quantities of guns and ammunition from Czechoslovakia with shipment alone in June 1948 compromising over 6,000 machine guns and more than 52 million bullets – and influencing Israeli politics via the ‘Marxist-Zionist’ Mapam party till the Soviet Union’s collapse in December 1991.
Once again this is exactly how Moses Hess had envisioned the future in his 1862 book ‘Rome and Jerusalem’ as embodied by the fact that Soviet and American taxes both paid for Israel’s generous and highly subsidised healthcare, education and day-care systems. This while both countries were (and the United States still is) run by a disproportionately Jewish elite who stifle all criticism of Jews, Judaism and Israel under the guise of ‘anti-Semitism’. In return for these subsidies, Israelis take an ever increasing chunk of American taxpayers’ money for themselves while Jews in America support policies such as free and widespread access to abortion, homosexual marriage, illegal immigration, every increasing gun control, etc.
It is almost like this was planned: isn’t it?
~ Karl R