October 7 and the Palestinian-Israeli War

[Wahrheitssucher]

And here's another thing.
The jews and by that I mainly include israelis and the lunatic zionist supporters think like this woman does… [have an] arrogance and stupidity [that] is breathtaking...
She's an odious piece of shit who has been spreading jew lies and propaganda for decades as a journalist in the UK.
Melanie Philips is her name.

Watch this video of hers put out this week to see if you can spot any sign of rational understanding and care for anyone else than the jews and israel. Don't hold your breath.
Never crossed their tiny little minds that if there was a clearly defined israeli state and a clearly defined Palestinian state we might not be in the pickle that exists today. Why was there never a two state solution? Because the zionist had no intention of sticking to the land they were given.

And they weren’t given ANY land to be only-for-Jews. Their initial terrorism and ethnic-cleansing was illegal.
And their decades of extending that land-theft plus denying right of return to non-Jewish indigenous Palestinians is also illegal.
They are an illegal, racist, rogue state. Yet all European countries plus USA, Canada, much of South America, and Australasia SUPPORT them!?!?

The fact that such an odious and obviously delusional and deceitful person as Ms Phillips (her husband is Joshua Rozenberg and her father's family are from Poland so not really called ‘Phillips’) is regularly and repeatedly allowed on BBC chat shows, current news programmes and has a successful career in ‘journalism’ at msm news-outlets like the Guardian is very telling.
Who employs someone like that for decades?
Who is choosing someone so biasedly pro-Israel as her to appear on prime-time, TV ‘news’ discussions and debates?
Answer: other jews are employing her and others like her!
Answer: jews who are themselves deceitful/delusional and rabidly pro-Israel are in positions of power to put her on British TV programmes and into British people’s sitting rooms and her views into their minds.

That is why I can’t imagine that someone who has managed to see through:
A. the decades of lies, exaggerations and state-sponsored indoctrination into the holocaust genocide of jews by mass-gassing deception,
somehow can’t ALSO see through:
B. the much easier to detect lies about Israel’s current mass-murder and ethic cleansing of Gaza as being self-defence and a ‘war’ only with Hamas.
How can anyone with some intelligence still believe the Jewish deception of Israel being a nation of decent, peaceful people who only want to live in peace with their neighbours but are surrounded by anti-semite, arab jew-haters who want to kill them all?

That is why I suspect the honesty and motives of Israel shills like InuYasha.

[borjastick]

Good post Wahrheitssucher.Worthwhile remembering all that you say. I didn't realise she is married to Rozenberg. He appears on the tv for legal commentary and though I haven't heard him supporting israel if he's married to her then he must get it in the neck at home every night.

My late father was in the Royal Irish Fusiliers towards the end of the war until 1947 and was posted to Alexandria first of all then Suez then Palestine shortly thereafter. He never doubted the holocaust story but told me that old jews and arabs of Palestine were fine old boys who were very similar and largely got along just fine. But when the extreme imposters from the ashkenazi mafia turned up things got very ugly very quickly. It's almost as if these land thieves are playing at being jewish, not knowing how real jews behave and as such are just making it up plus 50% for good measure. I really hate them with a vengeance. They have no moral compass, think they are above the law and genuinely believe they are God's children, which I can assure everyone they are not.

We all know that ashkenazis are the architects of their own demise and I hope I live long enough to see this happen, again, because I am certain they will get fucked big time in israel and with luck quite soon.

I remember about 10 years or so ago I was at a summer BBQ thingy with my wife and was introduced to a middle aged couple who seemed quite nice. We got chatting and my jewdar start ringing quite loud in my head. They were on holiday and were going to israel so rather sneakily I asked them 'why'. Why go to israel. He was puzzled and said they were going to their ancient homeland to touch the jewish homeland etc. So I asked him where his ancestors were born and he said Poland. I was now in full on attack mode so I said to him that his homeland is Poland not israel because he must be ashkenazi, and thus not of the holy land. He was staggered and got quite flustered and walked off. With that I got on with enjoying the rest of my evening...

These people are psychopaths.

[Wahrheitssucher]

Here is evidence of how both non-jewish AND jewish zionists use the WW2 propaganda that falsely claims a planned genocide of all jews — i.e. what has become the legally-protected ‘holocaust’ narrative — to justify an ongoing, filmed and irrefutable mass-murderous genocide in illegally occupied Palestine.

This particular, recent example of using the alleged ‘holocaust’ of eight decades ago to justify a much more sadistically cruel ‘holocaust’ occurring NOW, is from one of the more obnoxious, non-jewish, zionist supporters and promulgators of zionist rhetoric, viz. British TV ‘journalist’ Mr. Piers Morgan.

https://open.substack.com/pub/jonathanc ... medium=ios

Through his dehumanisation of Palestinians, his racist incitements and mindless conflation of “Israelis” and “Jews”, Morgan continues to add fuel to the fire of genocide

I already had a very low opinion of Piers Morgan. But I was stunned by his display of racist ignorance last night while interviewing the Palestinian journalist Ahmed Alnaouq, who showed great fortitude and dignity throughout.

Outrageously Morgan berates Alnaouq, whose entire family in Gaza was wiped out by Israel early on in its genocide, for insisting that there is a distinction – recognised by Palestinians, if not Israel – between Israelis and Jews.

Alnaouq points out that Palestinians have a problem, not with Jews, but with Israelis for violently occupying and colonising their land for many decades, and for putting Palestinians in Gaza under a brutal 17-year siege that has now been transformed into campaign of starvation.

The exchange has to be heard to be believed…

MORGAN (incredulously): "How can you say you have no problem with the Jews, but you have a problem with the Israelis, given that most Israelis are Jewish?"

Alnaouq: "I am simply astonished that you can't make the difference between the Jews and the Israelis, Piers."

MORGAN: "I am astonished you would try to draw a distinction."

Morgan then insists that Hamas is a "death cult" determined to kill all Israelis because they are Jews.

Alnaouq: "It's dangerous when you make this [out to be] a religious war."

MORGAN: "It's dangerous when you try to pretend that they’re not after killing Jews... You don't think Hamas target Jews because they are Jews."

Alnaouq: "Of course, not."

MORGAN: "That's nonsense."

Alnaouq: "I am surprised that you are saying this, Piers. Genuinely I am surprised."

MORGAN (again incredulously): "You're surprised that I think Hamas target Jewish people."

Alnaouq: "Of course."

MORGAN: "I find that staggering, Ahmed. It's obviously a ridiculous thing to say."

Alnaouq: "Why?"

MORGAN: "Because obviously they target and murder as many Jewish people as they can get their hands on. And you say it's because they are Israelis, not Jewish."

Alnaouq: "Because they are occupiers, because they occupied our country."

MORGAN: "And because they are Jewish."

Alnaouq: "No. Because they occupied our country, and colonised our country. Because they came to our country and kicked us out in 1948 and they killed thousands of Palestinians, including my grandparents."

MORGAN: "But you know why Israel was set up after World War Two. Because Jewish people were the victims of an appalling Holocaust by Hitler and the Nazis where 6 million of them were exterminated purely for their ethnicity and for being Jewish. So the Jewish people were given the state of Israel."

Alnaouq: "My country."

MORGAN: "I understand that argument, but it wasn't 'Israelis' given that land. It was the Jewish people."

Alnaouq: "Who are you to give the Jewish people my country?"

CONCLUSION:
Zionist jews — together with corrupt, ambitious, immoral shabbat-goyim like Piers Morgan — perpetuate the unevidenced and refuted WW2 ‘holocaust’ atrocity propaganda in order to justify mass-murder, ethnic-cleansing and racist apartheid in the Middle-East.
The hypocrisy is disgusting.
The level of deceit is staggering.
The arrogant chutzpah of both combined is deeply degraded.

[borjastick]

Morgan is an odd bloke indeed. He feels the need to shout very loud to show his support for the jews. One wonders about his religious origins.

I think there is a difference today between the jews in general and the israelis. Not much of a difference but still one that exists. I have worked with and for jews in the UK and around them in the late seventies because I worked right at the end of Hatton Garden (the jewish run gold,diamond and precious metals sector in London). To be fair they seemed ok and quite amenable. But on the rare occasion I have met israelis it was clear to me these people act in an odd and unacceptable way. They have an air about them that immediately puts one off them. They are objectionable people and the best place for them would be in a country called israel surrounded by a very large wall.

I don't know of the person Morgan was interviewing but he is right about it being his country given away to a bunch of 'jews' by a country who had no right to do such a thing. I have and will continue to support the Palestinian people against their oppressors. The west as we speak is allowing a genocide to take place and one which even if it stopped today would be seen as accomplishing most of its goals. It won't stop today and that is the very sad thing. I said from the beginning of this current war that the israelis will slaughter the Gazans and steal the Gaza strip. I have no reason to change my view on this.

Then when all settles down somewhat the jews like Melanie Philips will bleat on about rising anti-semitism and fail or deliberately avoid connecting their actions against Palestine to the rising and well justified hatred of jews around the world.

What always amazes me is the complete lack of powerful voice from jews around the world who perhaps hate the existence of israel and certainly hate the rise in anti-semitism caused by israel's actions.

[HansHill]

I think there is a difference today between the jews in general and the israelis. Not much of a difference but still one that exists.

Absolutely - and its not too dissimilar (although for different reasons) as to why American blacks are so different from Sub-Saharan blacks. They live in different environments and AA's have some percentage of European admixture - i've seen ranges from 10% - 30%, and they have a "culture" that is probably completely at odds with Sub-Saharan blacks.

For the Jews, it's obvious that a New York Jew, or a Pale-of-Settlement Jew would have a completely different life than an Israeli Jew or Levantine Jew. The New York or POS (lol) Jew would also have some European admixture (40%) that the Levantine Jew would not (but the Israeli might, depending if he is a settler or Legacy Jew).

[borjastick]

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And you will notice they never apologise, never take responsibility and never admit to blame. Currently the odd looking yid on the left, Gideon Falter, is claiming all sorts against the British police and government that anti-semitism is on the rise and is such a terrible thing while never looking in the mirror or through the sniper's lens to see the mass slaughter of Palestinians.

They will of course scream out in pain for many years to come about the rise in anti-semitism without ever realising it is all of their own making. Still, a nice Gaza beach side condo might make it less painful for them...

[Wahrheitssucher]

Andrew Anglin recently wrote an article published on the Unz review that had a title which posed this question:
”How can you believe the 'Nazi Holocaust' after having seen the Jewish lies about October 7th?”

Its a question I would genuinely like to see answered by the devoted-defenders here at CODOH of the holocaust mass-gassing narrative.
Anyone willing to reply to it?

I am genuinely interested.
Though I understand why none of you will be able to approach it honestly.

Here is Anglin’s debunking of the Oct 7th lies by Israeli jews and their world-wide coterie of jewish supporters:

Massive lies were told about the events of October 7, 2023, and what Hamas allegedly did to the Jews, and this has led me to wonder how it is possible that people can continue to believe the lies that were told about what the Germans did to the Jews during World War II.

Let’s go through some of the big lies that Jews in the Israeli and US governments, as well as the US media, told about October 7th.

1) “40 Beheaded Babies”
Claim:
On the day of the event, reports that appear to have originated from i24 News, as well as direct statements from Bibi Netanyahu’s office, claimed that Hamas “terrorists” beheaded 40 babies. (Note: Hamas does not actually fit the definition of terrorists, as there is such a thing as a legitimate resistance group that uses violence, and simply being Islamic doesn’t mean your group is “terrorist.”)
The claim was repeated not just by tabloids, but the likes of Fox News and CNN.

Debunking
In this case, the Israeli government itself later admitted that there was no evidence of 40 beheaded babies. The White House also walked back Joe Biden’s use of the claim.

There was no evidence, despite the fact that the site of the Hamas attack was filmed as much as any place ever, so there was no need for an official debunking. After reporters kept asking about evidence, the US and Israeli governments just admitted it was fake.

2) Mass Rape and Sexual Violence
Claim:
The entire Israeli government organized to claim that during the October 7th raid, Hamas engaged in “systematic rape” and “sexual mutilation.”

This rape claim always seemed ridiculous on its face, as while Hamas was across the border for up to 6-7 hours, the actual operation was between 3-5 hours long. These people were in gun fights with the IDF, they were dodging airstrikes, they were taking hostages, all while navigating unfamiliar terrain (and often getting lost, as is seen in Hamas’ own videos and was admitted during interrogations). “Okay boys, let’s take a quick break for rape” always sounded very silly.

Furthermore, as the Jews and their media constantly repeat, Hamas is a strict Islamic group, and based on that, any soldier caught engaging in rape during a military operation would be executed on the spot. If they were doing “systematic rape,” they are not an Islamic group at all, but an irreligious bandit gang, and that is not a claim anyone is making. The media obviously relied on the lack of information the public has about Islamic law, knowing they would not be aware that rape during war is totally banned.

The Koran bans all rape, including of slave girls. Here are specific Hadith that mention sexual violence during war:

Hadith (Sunan Abu Dawud 2158): “The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) prohibited taking women as captives solely for the purpose of sexual relations.”
Hadith (Sahih Muslim 3371): “Do not kill women, children, or the elderly, and do not commit treachery or rape.”

There is no serious Islamic group that allows rape during war. Even ISIS banned this. You’ll remember that all of the talk about sexual abuse by ISIS was around forced marriage (which is allowed in certain contexts in certain forms of Islam). And Hamas is a much more serious Islamic group than ISIS, which is a CIA- and Israel-backed terror group.

Debunking
An official UN investigation (UN Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights), which was (quite ridiculously) not released until March 2024 even though it could have been completed and released in a couple weeks, found no evidence of “widespread rape.”

Further, forensic experts from various international rights groups found nothing, while independent investigators from The Grayzone and Mondoweiss (both primarily Jewish outlets) found no evidence supporting the rape claims.

Finally, specific claims were later proven false. The Israeli government had claimed there existed a “Hamas rape manual” which was proved to be totally made up out of nothing.

3) Hamas Burned Families Alive, Purposefully Murdered Civilians
Claim:
The entire media was claiming that Hamas “burned families alive” by setting their houses on fire. There was no evidence ever presented.

Debunking:
An investigation by Israel publications +972 Magazine and Local Call found that most (not all, but most) civilian deaths in homes were due to Israeli helicopter fire.
Israeli helicopters (actually US helicopters supplied to Israel) also gunned down hostages on Hamas motorcycles, the investigation found.
The IDF later admitted to using the “Hannibal Directive,” which involves using heavy fire to prevent hostages from being taken, and allows for the death of Israelis. The preference, in the doctrine, is that a civilian die rather than be taken hostage.

4) Hamas “Targeted” a Music Festival
Claim:
It was claimed that the Nova music festival was a specific target of Hamas and that they started mass executing people there.

Debunking
It was later shown that the music festival was coincidentally going on when Hamas attacked. Investigations by Jewish outlets (Yedioth Ahronoth, Haaretz) showed that many of the festival goers who died were not killed by Hamas (at least not on purpose in “executions”), but rather in crossfire in the fighting with the IDF, as well as by Israeli helicopter strikes.

5) Hamas Used Human Shields While Fighting from Civilian Homes
Claim:
The Jewish state claimed Hamas fighters were hiding in the Kibbutzim and shooting from behind families, from inside of family homes.

Debunking:
Testimonies from survivors published by The Electronic Intifada and Middle East Eye among others showed that the Hamas fighters were directly engaging in shootouts with the IDF, not hiding in civilian homes.

6) The attack was part of a planned ‘Genocide’
Claim:
Almost unbelievably, the Jews claimed that this small operation on October 7th was a plan to genocide all of the Jews, and that the goal of the attack was random killing.

Debunking:
Leaked Israeli intelligence from +972 showed that the Israelis understood that Hamas expected a prisoner swap and had no goal of mass killing civilians.

Before October 7th, Israel was holding over 5,000 Palestinian hostages (since October 7th, that number has more than doubled), so it is pretty rational that Hamas would want to take their own hostages as a way to get back their own people through swaps, and this is in fact what Israeli intelligence said the purpose of the operation was.

Here’s an excerpt of Anglin’s analyis of lies told collectively by jews:

When did Jews start LYING like this then?
Jews lie compulsively in order to make themselves out to be victims. Certainly, there were Jewish innocent victims on October 7th, as there are always victims in war, but the fact is, most of the innocents were killed by the Jews themselves, and the Hamas operation was a legitimate military operation.

It is shocking to me personally that the same people who will say the Jews lied about really everything they could possibly lie about with relation to October 7th are not willing to question the stories Jews tell about what supposedly happened to them during World War II.

My hope is that there is simply a delay on this, and at some point in the future, people will ask: “well, what else have the Jews been lying about?”

Invader-settler jew Golan Vach straight-faced lying to camera:


Debunking the ‘beheaded’ lies:

[borjastick]

A good article and one which thoroughly disproves the October 7 claims and shows the israelis in a very bad light, if that is even possible.

It was well covered in the reporting in the website www.thegrayzone.com

Worth noting that over the period since October 7th the death total has dropped. It is also well worth noting that ashkenazis 'jews' are inveterate liars. I can't speak for the real semitic jews of the holy land but the fake ones, who by and large are those involved with the holocaust, should never have their claims taken at face value.