Archaeological Evidence of Mass Graves at Treblinka II

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Re: Archaeological Evidence of Mass Graves at Treblinka II

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Nessie wrote: Tue Jul 01, 2025 10:23 am You are continuing with your constant theme, of coming up with excuses to dismiss evidence of huge areas of disturbed ground containing cremated remains, rather than evidencing huge areas of undisturbed ground, which would prove no mass graves.

You are holding the default position within your cerebral hiatus that the graves existed and the ground was undisturbed despite the contrary information given. Within the current Treblinka compound (Judenlager) there were graves, as the dead who arrived on train and who died by other means were not sent to local cemeteries. You and some old communists are claiming that the Germans murdered people buried them, dug them up and cremated them. The soviets bombed that place to smitherines, the craters going much deeper than the alleged burial pits. This was a few years before Poland was annexed by the Soviets. The Soviets were trying to blame Germans for atrocities and so were the Polish Communists in late 45. How could there be undisturbed ground after a massive bombardment; what an incredibly stupid question asked considering the context of the given information including the evidence from the Jews; re-think your vacuous post.
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Re: Archaeological Evidence of Mass Graves at Treblinka II

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Nazgul wrote: Tue Jul 01, 2025 10:30 am
Nessie wrote: Tue Jul 01, 2025 10:23 am You are continuing with your constant theme, of coming up with excuses to dismiss evidence of huge areas of disturbed ground containing cremated remains, rather than evidencing huge areas of undisturbed ground, which would prove no mass graves.

You are holding the default position within your cerebral hiatus that the graves existed and the ground was undisturbed despite the contrary information given. Within the current Treblinka compound (Judenlager) there were graves, as the dead who arrived on train and who died by other means were not sent to local cemeteries. You and some old communists are claiming that the Germans murdered people buried them, dug them up and cremated them.
Nazis and Jews, who worked inside TII, state that there were mass graves, that were then exhumed and the corpses cremated. Local Poles speak to months of cremations, with smoke and smells coming from the camp. Post war surveys of the camp site, have found huge areas of disturbed ground containing cremated remains.
The soviets bombed that place to smitherines, the craters going much deeper than the alleged burial pits.
So far, your evidence for that, consists of a Polish Jewish Commission's emotive condemnation of the Soviet use of explosives at the site. You have provided no evidence any crater caused by an explosion went deeper than any dug pit.
This was a few years before Poland was annexed by the Soviets. The Soviets were trying to blame Germans for atrocities and so were the Polish Communists in late 45. How could there be undisturbed ground after a massive bombardment; what an incredibly stupid question asked considering the context of the given information including the evidence from the Jews; re-think your vacuous post.
I am asking you about the buried remains the explosives unearthed. How did they get there? Your previous answer was "rumour"! :lol: You then concede dead were buried at the camp, but claim they were dead from the transports or people who otherwise died inside the camp, but you refuse to provide any evidence to show how many died and were buried.

Typically for a so-called revisionist you are evidence free, or your level of evidencing, is woeful.
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Re: Archaeological Evidence of Mass Graves at Treblinka II

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Nessie wrote: Tue Jul 01, 2025 11:34 am .
Slop slop slop slop slop.

You don't have 750,000 bodies' worth of ash. Nowhere close.
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HansHill wrote: Tue Jul 01, 2025 12:21 pm
Nessie wrote: Tue Jul 01, 2025 11:34 am .
Slop slop slop slop slop.

You don't have 750,000 bodies' worth of ash. Nowhere close.
Ask him about the 3.5 Olympic swimming pools...
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Re: Archaeological Evidence of Mass Graves at Treblinka II

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Nazis and Jews, who worked inside TII, state that there were mass graves, that were then exhumed and the corpses cremated. Local Poles speak to months of cremations, with smoke and smells coming from the camp. Post war surveys of the camp site, have found huge areas of disturbed ground containing cremated remains.
Local Poles can "speak to months of cremations", but you have no reasonable explanation for how Soviet reconnaissance planes didn't document this huge outside cremation operation.
Here's how Weirnik explains it- “Whenever an airplane was sighted overhead, all work was stopped, the corpses were covered with foliage as camouflage against aerial observation.”
Nessie, do you actually believe that?

So far, your evidence for that, consists of a Polish Jewish Commission's emotive condemnation of the Soviet use of explosives at the site. You have provided no evidence any crater caused by an explosion went deeper than any dug pit.
From that Polish Jewish Commission report:
November 9, 1945
"The excavations began at the location described by the witness Rajzman on November 6, where the so-called ‘camp hospital’ had stood and where, according to the witness, a mass grave is supposed to exist. Since a bomb crater 4 to 5 meters deep is present at the said location – two bombs still lie at a slight distance from this crater – the digging was begun in this crater"[...] "No human remains were found"."


November 10, 1945
The work was continued, with 36 workers who had been commandeered for roadwork. At a depth of 6 meters begins a layer which has never before been uncovered by anyone. It consists partly of all sorts of kitchen utensils and different kinds of household objects; there are also pieces of clothing. At a depth of 7 meters, we reached the bottom of the pit – a layer of yellow sand which is not mixed with gravel."[...] "During the course of the excavations, numerous more or less badly damaged Polish documents were discovered, in addition the badly damaged personal identity card of a German Jew, as well as several more coins: Polish, German, Russian, Belgian, and even American. After we had made certain that this pit, filled with broken pieces of the containers al- ready mentioned, ran in a north-south direction on the grounds of the camp area – 2 meters more [in a northerly direction] had been excavated – the workers started work at this location."

November 11, 1945
"The largest of the craters produced by explosions (numerous fragments at- test to the fact that these explosions were set off by bombs), which is at maximum 6 meters deep and has a diameter of about 25 meters"[...] "Numerous human remains were found by these excavations, still partially in a state of decomposition. The soil consists of ashes interspersed with sand, and is of a dark gray color, granulous in form. During the excavations, the soil gave off an intense odor of burning and decay. At a depth of 7.5 meters the bottom was reached, which consisted of layers of unmixed sand. At this point the digging was stopped."

I don't see how you think this report strengthens your narrative. At least the Soviet report gave a nice admission- “At the present it is difficult to uncover the traces and secrets of this oven for the cremation of people, but based upon the available data, one can picture it.”
This is like Rosenblat's 'In my mind it was real'.
I am asking you about the buried remains the explosives unearthed. How did they get there? Your previous answer was "rumour"! :lol: You then concede dead were buried at the camp, but claim they were dead from the transports or people who otherwise died inside the camp, but you refuse to provide any evidence to show how many died and were buried.
They found a few skulls and body parts which were still decomposing, not a single intact body or skeleton was found"Those aren’t just bones," "There are still pieces of half-rotted corpses lying there, bunches of intestines.". The decomposing body parts and skulls void of gunshot wounds do not make sense if we take the orthodox narrative. And, what about the prisoners allegedly killed in the revolt + the 30,000 Jews sent from the ghetto of Bialystok. Nothing.

Typically for a so-called revisionist you are evidence free, or your level of evidencing, is woeful.
Ironic! :?
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