One of Nessie's major witnesses, brazenly lying in court.
Yes, the identification of Demjanjuk was challenged in court and the witnesses found to be unreliable and unable to identify him. When a Nazi denied being responsible, his defence is able to challenge witnesses. That explains why in the other camp trials, witnesses were not challenged, because the Nazis admitted to the allegations and crimes. Demjanjuk denied responsibility or being there, but just like every other Nazi, he did not provide any evidence to challenge that gassings took place at TII, or for mass resettlement.
Nessie,
Providing so-called "evidence" that allegedly "supports" the liewitness allegations that have already been proven to be lies is meaningless. No amount of contrary "evidence" can overrule what has already been proven, and that is:
Oh my god I think you truly can’t hear it when you say it.Nessie wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2024 10:32 amIt is normal witness behaviour to use figures of speech, repeat atrocity stories and lie.Nazgul wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2024 9:08 amThis is not witness behaviour, this is in his book. It is all carefully planned, contrived atrocity propaganda without a shred of evidence.Nessie wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2024 8:22 am
Does that therefore mean everything Wiernik said is a lie and nothing he describes happened? The answer is no. From all the studies of witness behaviour, the claim about a child being torn in half can be simply explained by the use of figures of speech, or repeating atrocity hearsay and it does not mean that therefore Wiernik made everything up.
Those who worked inside the camps, will have both seen and heard about, what happened inside the camp, which makes most of the witnesses a mix of hearsay and eyewitness testimony. For example, one of the earliest escapees from TII, Abram Krzepicki. He was inside for only 18 days, and he worked sorting property, not at the gas chambers. He is an eyewitness to mass arrivals, people being told to strip they were going for showers, the theft of their property and that they did not subsequently leave the camp. His descriptions of the gas chambers are hearsay and he has nothing to say about cremations, as he had escaped before that started. He is very much a witness to what happened inside TII.AreYouSirius wrote: ↑Mon Jun 30, 2025 12:51 amOh my god I think you truly can’t hear it when you say it.
How is a witness a witness if they are “repeating atrocity stories?” Recounting something not directly experienced by the experiencer means they weren’t there for anything and didn’t see nuthin’.
Parroting something not directly witnessed by the “witness” means the witness was not in fact a witness. So what good are their campfire fables to our discussion of the veracity and feasibility of the Holocaust as a WWII genocide atrocity?